(22:01:39) mischief: Dec 30 19:48:48.738606 rule 5/(match) block in on lo0: 10.0.1.1.17552 > 10.0.1.1.80: S 3393797806:3393797806(0) win 16384
(22:01:44) mischief: ARG
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(22:13:59) trebuchet: Bink: Is there a good resource where people discuss using partition layouts for security reasons, maybe with more stuff into inodes, disk medium, filesystem type, and quotas?
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(22:42:24) mischief: somehow my traffic to my lan webserver is ending up on lo0. and traffic from my lan network to lo0 is blocked somehow.. :\
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(23:08:15) republican_devil: the mystery of config files
(23:08:19) republican_devil: deep they are
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(00:37:23) Bink: mischief, sounds like you're doing it wrong
(00:37:38) mischief: Bink, antispoof lo
(00:37:41) mischief: :/ :\
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(00:38:05) Bink: why?
(00:38:41) mischief: that was breaking things
(00:39:05) mischief: also 'block return log on $lan_if' lol
(00:43:43) Bink: from man pf.conf...
(00:43:44) Bink: "Caveat: Rules created by the antispoof directive interfere with packets sent over loopback interfaces to local addresses. One should pass these explicitly."
(00:49:14) jumzi: Is it a known problem that you have to do "make build" twice in /usr/src to build it?
(00:49:27) jumzi: It errors the first time, then it goes fine
(00:49:52) Bink: never had that problem
(00:52:16) jumzi: Hmm... weird... Well for now that goes under "annoying"
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(00:55:02) Bink: you might want to try rming /usr/obj/* and making obj again
(00:57:12) martian67: jumzi, thats definately not normal
(00:57:21) martian67: was it a signal 11/sigsev ?
(00:57:44) martian67: *sigsegv
(00:58:04) martian67: if so, and if it failed at a different part, you may have hardware issues
(00:58:14) jumzi: Can't recall, i will check into it later
(00:58:24) jumzi: no, my hardware is awesome
(00:59:10) martian67: dont count on it
(00:59:24) jumzi: I usually don't
(00:59:58) jumzi: But i'm feeling lucky
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(01:14:47) CaZe: It's just OpenBSD's way of making sure that you really want to build.
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(01:17:05) jumzi: Yeah i presumed so
(01:17:51) republican_devil: is openbsd good on mac hardware?
(01:17:55) republican_devil: I got a mac laptop
(01:18:00) republican_devil: 1ghz
(01:18:03) jumzi: NOTHING IS GOOD ON MAC HARDWARE!
(01:18:05) republican_devil: 768m ram
(01:18:10) republican_devil: :(
(01:18:28) jumzi: Some say it looks good
(01:18:38) jumzi: I say bah!
(01:18:52) jumzi: But then... I can't even afford the clothes i'm wearing
(01:21:36) republican_devil: why not get a high paying computer job?
(01:22:10) republican_devil: damn on my 286mhz p2 openbsd 4.8 is good with pidgin and terminal, but firefox 3.5 SLOW
(01:22:17) republican_devil: is there an older firefox?
(01:22:55) CaZe: No.
(01:22:57) FenderQ: republican_devil I've used it on a macbook, worked great
(01:23:15) CaZe: They start versioning at 3.5 for everything now.
(01:23:40) republican_devil: caze dont be lame
(01:23:51) CaZe: No really it's true.
(01:24:58) republican_devil: cazy mentally span again I do not want to
(01:25:04) republican_devil: spank
(01:26:40) CaZe: whip
(01:26:44) martian67: ugh
(01:28:34) republican_devil: downloading seamonkey
(01:28:39) republican_devil: hmm
(01:28:44) tobiasu: haha
(01:29:11) republican_devil: is it krap?
(01:29:17) republican_devil: :(
(01:29:22) republican_devil: p2 268mhz
(01:29:34) Bink: republican_devil, you can't satisfactory browse the modern web on a ~200MHz machine. get over it or use lynx.
(01:29:42) republican_devil: jeesh with 268,000,000 operations per second I should be flyting through the web
(01:29:56) republican_devil: software bloat
(01:29:59) CaZe: Maybe Mosaic.
(01:30:12) tobiasu: republican_devil: try midori
(01:30:40) tobiasu: or better, elinks with a 256 color term
(01:30:48) Bink: install rdesktop and remote into a Windows box
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(01:31:05) CaZe: republican_devil: Are you overclocking it? :D
(01:32:02) republican_devil: no
(01:32:08) republican_devil: no bad idea tho
(01:32:20) republican_devil: elink!
(01:32:22) republican_devil: lol
(01:32:33) republican_devil: dillo renders many pages in CRAAAZY ways
(01:32:34) CaZe: 286Mhz is sort of an odd frequency.
(01:32:42) republican_devil: 268mhz
(01:32:52) republican_devil: pentium II
(01:32:56) CaZe: 266?
(01:33:04) CaZe: err 267
(01:33:21) Bink: I use my 266MHz box as a serial console. that's about it.
(01:33:56) republican_devil: cpu0: Intel Pentium II ("GenuineIntel" 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 268 MHz
(01:35:28) CaZe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_II_microprocessors
(01:35:40) CaZe: That was $775 when it was released.
(01:36:05) republican_devil: heh I got quad phonom II 965 3.8ghx for under 700 with 8g ram
(01:36:08) martian67: thats one expensive list
(01:36:36) republican_devil: mays law: software become twice as slow each 18 month, cancelling moore law
(01:36:37) republican_devil: lol
(01:38:17) republican_devil: ok weird, I just installed mozilla-firefox, and it is same version as firefox35 [aka 3.5] I already have instaled?
(01:38:26) republican_devil: on ftp site says it is firefox 3.6
(01:38:29) republican_devil: hmmm
(01:38:33) republican_devil: kinda kooky
(01:38:41) republican_devil: anyone know why?
(01:38:55) CaZe: You're doing it wrong.
(01:38:58) FenderQ: you did something wrong?
(01:38:59) FenderQ: lol
(01:40:16) JavaAtom: wow
(01:40:25) JavaAtom: Miraculous failure of half of my ram. 1 side per two stick.s
(01:40:27) JavaAtom: stick*
(01:40:42) JavaAtom: Hooray Dell.
(01:40:58) republican_devil: # pkg_add -v mozilla-firefox
(01:41:32) republican_devil: # pkg_info|grep fox
(01:41:32) republican_devil: firefox35-3.5.11 Mozilla web browser
(01:41:32) republican_devil: mozilla-firefox-3.6.8 Mozilla web browser
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(01:45:54) republican_devil: intersting after pkg_delte firefox35 it comes up at 3.6.8
(01:45:55) republican_devil: hmm
(01:46:14) Bink: you got the bonus plan
(01:47:33) JavaAtom: wha.
(01:47:48) JavaAtom: Bink: Oh, btw, figured out the QoS stuff.
(01:47:53) Bink: cool
(01:47:55) republican_devil: maybe mozilla-firefox points to 35 until you remove it?
(01:47:56) republican_devil: hmm
(01:48:09) JavaAtom: Bink: It's not that great - OBSD does more with ALTQ.
(01:48:18) JavaAtom: Bink: Also, relies on routers supporting DSCP
(01:48:31) Bink: JavaAtom, that's for sure
(01:49:06) Bink: (OpenBSD can be your secret router that supports DSCP)
(01:49:23) JavaAtom: Bink: Yeah... I'm thinking of a way to do a transparent bridge.
(01:49:38) JavaAtom: If anyone has suggestions, I'd be all for it,
(01:49:56) JavaAtom: Otherwise, I keep reading my book.
(01:49:57) JavaAtom: :D
(01:50:16) Bink: I dislike transparent bridges, and so does OpenBSD.
(01:50:25) JavaAtom: eah
(01:50:27) JavaAtom: yeah*
(01:51:09) JavaAtom: wait... OBSD doesn't need to do NAT, just a basic bridge with queues...
(01:51:25) ***JavaAtom is getting terms all twisted 'round
(01:51:34) JavaAtom: It's nearly 1am here. I am tired.
(01:53:03) Bink: you can push 2x more packets through an OpenBSD box if you route. and you're far less likely to livelock.
(01:54:03) republican_devil: route!
(01:54:06) republican_devil: livelock
(01:54:07) republican_devil: !
(01:54:18) You are now known as mitt_romney
(01:54:31) ***JavaAtom still needs to read.
(01:54:52) mitt_romney: speaking of cpu, will openbsd work on that ARM cpu?
(01:55:08) mitt_romney: the one google ordered like multi core database box for for testing?
(01:55:35) jumzi: Your googling skills sux
(01:56:21) jumzi: http://www.openbsd.org/plat.html
(01:56:38) jumzi: see armish
(01:58:19) mitt_romney: although your manners are subpar the link is interesting
(02:03:06) Termana: manners? What the fuck are they?
(02:03:10) Termana: :p
(02:03:48) wmoxam: s/interesting/informative/
(02:04:24) mitt_romney: the sillyness of how corporations build software astounds me
(02:04:34) mitt_romney: I think perhaps we shoiuld have a contest
(02:04:40) mitt_romney: here is the problem
(02:04:47) mitt_romney: present your solution in 2 weeks
(02:04:53) mitt_romney: best one einws
(02:04:56) mitt_romney: bad?
(02:05:00) mitt_romney: I dunn
(02:05:11) mitt_romney: I think project maanger are useless as tits on a mouse
(02:05:35) mitt_romney: SOA is insane to travel up n down a web stack to get data
(02:05:46) mitt_romney: instead of using the data structures
(02:06:02) mitt_romney: java creeps me out
(02:06:07) mitt_romney: I for some reason like tcl
(02:11:22) chris_osx: tits on a mouse are quite useful for the mouse babys
(02:11:45) mitt_romney: not if the mouse is a glass paperweight
(02:12:14) mitt_romney: although ambiguity could arise I admit
(02:12:15) chris_osx: not in that case
(02:12:36) mitt_romney: as useless as a keynesian phd from princeton?
(02:13:47) chris_osx: a deep freezer would be useless for an eskimo
(02:14:23) CaZe: As useless as having Mitt Romney on your ticket for President.
(02:14:59) mitt_romney: ah ha
(02:15:00) chris_osx: as useless as alcohol free vodka for a russian
(02:15:07) mitt_romney: except for those who lvoe good economy
(02:15:16) mitt_romney: and low governmetn spending
(02:15:25) chris_osx: i was for ross perot
(02:15:27) mitt_romney: as useless as windows for a unix man
(02:15:29) CaZe: Which is great as long as you don't mind losing.
(02:15:33) mitt_romney: i voted for ross
(02:15:37) chris_osx: good
(02:15:50) kwork: as uselss as linux for windows admin
(02:15:57) kwork: because linux admins can handle win :P
(02:18:00) mitt_romney: I guess gnu icecat browser is not available to openbsd?
(02:18:01) chris_osx: as useless as a doorstopper on the enterprise
(02:18:20) chris_osx: mitt_romney: lynx rules
(02:18:27) kwork: links (Y)
(02:19:37) mitt_romney: not for pr0n
(02:19:39) mitt_romney: lol
(02:19:57) chris_osx: mitt_romney: use ascii art converter
(02:20:41) chris_osx: pbmtoascii is your friend
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(02:22:19) chris_openbsd: why do you need gnu icecat for viewing your naughty sites?
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(03:14:28) mitt_romney: firefox kinda ocks up this box
(03:14:34) mitt_romney: seamonkey seems ok
(03:20:48) mitt_romney: anything like dstat for openbsd
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(03:43:03) oenone: mitt_romney: what _is_ dstat?
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(03:46:08) mitt_romney: http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/dstat/#screenshot
(03:47:07) ericb2: hello
(03:47:55) ericb2: FYI, OOo4Kids (and by suit OOoLight ) builds directly from sources in OpenBSD
(03:48:21) mitt_romney: what is oolight?
(03:48:37) ericb2: mitt_romney: OpenOffice.org less 40%
(03:49:05) ericb2: mitt_romney: like OOo4Kids, but not childish look, and will be adapted to adults soon
(03:49:13) oenone: mitt_romney: try systat
(03:49:25) ericb2: another information : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/EnvironmentSetup/OpenBSD
(03:49:39) ericb2: + the makefile (work in progress) :
(03:49:46) ericb2: http://ftp.educoo.org/home/OOo4Kids/sources/stable/1.2/
(03:50:00) ericb2: we'll try to finalize a port on OpenBSD
(03:50:19) oenone: why not port libreoffice?
(03:50:20) ericb2: please be gentle, we are learning OpenBSD
(03:50:41) ericb2: something is in preparation no ?
(03:51:31) ericb2: oenone: OOo4Kids == OpenOffice.org Education Project, means we work with students, we train them to the code, and invent
(03:51:51) mitt_romney: I use html abiword and gnumeric
(03:51:54) mitt_romney: although not much
(03:51:56) mitt_romney: :)
(03:52:01) mitt_romney: I cna hand code html
(03:52:02) mitt_romney: I rock
(03:52:10) ericb2: mitt_romney: :)
(03:52:12) mitt_romney: siag office looked c00l
(03:54:06) ericb2: mitt_romney: we let people choose. At the begining, I wanted to study performance issues, and remove Java was choice, to isolate other causes of slowdown
(03:54:37) ericb2: mitt_romney: OOo and derivates suffer the same issue : slowness, and too heavy
(03:55:14) chris_openbsd: ericb2: openoffice even runs smoothly on my eeepc with atom cpu
(03:55:26) mitt_romney: what about that lyx thingy
(03:55:31) mitt_romney: thats lke troff undernearth
(03:55:56) mitt_romney: be awesome to have html engine ediotr
(03:55:56) ericb2: chris_openbsd: how much of RAM ?
(03:56:01) mitt_romney: used all html for all editing
(03:56:23) mitt_romney: I tried to send a recruiter a html resume one time
(03:56:25) mitt_romney: bad idea
(03:56:26) mitt_romney: lol
(03:56:33) mitt_romney: they stuck on ms word
(03:56:36) mitt_romney: so funny
(03:56:54) oenone: for document exchange, use pdf
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(03:57:17) mitt_romney: isnt pdf like proprietary or something
(03:57:33) ericb2: mitt_romney: it is -> Adobe
(03:57:51) CaZe: Use LaTeX.
(03:58:11) mrcarrot: actually, last i wrote my cv i used LaTeX
(03:58:16) chris_openbsd: ericb2: 2GB RAM
(03:58:31) ***oenone writes everything serious with LaTeX
(03:59:01) mrcarrot: because i also work like a teacher i am using a lot openoffice... i need to know it well and be able to teach it to other
(03:59:03) oenone: including my CVs, my diploma thesis, university reports, ...
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(03:59:17) ericb2: chris_openbsd: OOo4Kids (like OOoLight) can run on 256 MB of RAM machines, like XO machines
(03:59:20) ***chris_openbsd thinks that LaTeX is the best thing since the invention of sliced bread
(03:59:24) CaZe: You can tell who is well educated because they use LaTeX.
(03:59:25) ericb2: chris_openbsd: XO is our initial target
(03:59:32) CaZe: And they pronounce it correctly.
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(04:00:35) ericb2: chris_openbsd: I must say 512 MB is far better, but that's a good challenge, and any speed improvement is visible :)
(04:01:20) mrcarrot: i have been making a few issues of a magazine with LaTeX.. but there i have to almost say it was a bit more work than to use other publishing tools. so much tricking to get the layout i wanted when latex works the other way around.
(04:01:43) mrcarrot: with latex i should not care about layout, just the content...
(04:01:46) mitt_romney: I like plain text or html
(04:01:48) mitt_romney: :)
(04:02:02) oenone: magazines are not really the target of LaTeX...
(04:02:06) mitt_romney: so what interfact o latex?
(04:02:17) mitt_romney: interface
(04:02:20) mitt_romney: :)?
(04:03:05) mrcarrot: mitt_romney: it is a bit like writing pure html code, just that the tags are completely different and different looking. it exports to beutiful pdf-documents
(04:03:36) mrcarrot: beatiful
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(04:04:37) l0rd_hex: what do you do with a drunken sailor?
(04:05:10) mrcarrot: banning him?
(04:06:27) l0rd_hex: that's not part of the song
(04:07:40) mitt_romney: why not beautiful HTML documents
(04:07:42) mitt_romney: :)
(04:07:53) mitt_romney: I gota figure out a few placement things in html
(04:08:04) mitt_romney: I mean I can make a pic appea on the right
(04:08:11) mitt_romney: but not enuf other subtlety
(04:08:14) mrcarrot: mitt_romney: google a bit about latex and you will see what i mean :)
(04:08:29) mitt_romney: yeah cascading style sheet or soemthing in html apparently help
(04:08:37) l0rd_hex: plus I'd like to know if it's possible to use virtual users with opensmtpd, I have about 5 users I'd like to use on a not-very-busy mail server and I don't really want to create user accounts for them
(04:08:55) l0rd_hex: also, mitt_romney please stop taking my freedom
(04:08:57) mitt_romney: I frown upon virtualization
(04:09:00) l0rd_hex: ]
(04:09:06) mitt_romney: l0rd_hex: ?
(04:09:13) mitt_romney: how am I taking your freedom?
(04:09:16) mitt_romney: ;)
(04:09:23) l0rd_hex: Bob Beck once told me that virtulization is like a dead dove in a bag
(04:09:42) l0rd_hex: mitt_romney: you're not the _real_ mittens romley?
(04:09:56) mitt_romney: lol
(04:10:11) mitt_romney: bob beck sounds smart, I meant the os and now apps can multitask
(04:10:23) mitt_romney: a webserver can house 1,000 virtual hosts
(04:10:40) CaZe: mitt_romney: Did you go to college?
(04:10:46) mitt_romney: yes
(04:11:21) l0rd_hex: Bob Beck smells like a polar bear after a week in vegas
(04:11:25) l0rd_hex: but he is very smart
(04:11:30) mitt_romney: and if I did not caze?
(04:11:36) mitt_romney: polar bear lol
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(04:12:04) CaZe: I suspect you didn't.
(04:12:10) mitt_romney: caze what is your net worth to the nearest 1000?
(04:12:23) mitt_romney: I am actually a top performer academically.
(04:12:29) l0rd_hex: I'm serious, you go into his annex and take a good smell
(04:12:32) mitt_romney: and was rated a genius at 154 iq
(04:12:36) CaZe: mitt_romney: None of your business?
(04:12:44) no_mind: I have setup an openbsd based firewall and gateway. TI can ping any website internal network but cannot open any website from browser. How do I fix this ?
(04:12:52) l0rd_hex: mitt_romney: CaZe poops in a bag if you must know
(04:13:01) l0rd_hex: no_mind: ip forwarding
(04:13:01) mitt_romney: I am furthermore a published author
(04:13:13) mitt_romney: I poop on caze a lot
(04:13:14) l0rd_hex: no_mind: didja do that?
(04:13:20) CaZe: I drove my Mitt Romney's old house the other day.
(04:13:22) mitt_romney: he asks for it
(04:13:23) CaZe: *by
(04:13:29) no_mind: l0rd_hex: yes
(04:13:45) no_mind: configured in sysctl.vconf
(04:14:10) mitt_romney: caze are you a published author?
(04:15:07) CaZe: mitt_romney: Yes, I keep a blog.
(04:15:13) CaZe: http://technoninja.blogspot.com/2010/08/jdk-16-port-openbsd-47-install-buggery.html
(04:15:13) mitt_romney: link?
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(04:15:27) mitt_romney: caze.org?
(04:15:35) CaZe: mitt_romney: 04:14:34
(04:15:51) mitt_romney: crazzy.org?
(04:16:06) l0rd_hex: no_mind: what's your pf.conf look like?
(04:16:13) l0rd_hex: pastbin that shiz
(04:16:58) no_mind: how do I pastebin ? it is on a different network, where nat is not working ?
(04:17:26) l0rd_hex: no_mind: copy and paste your pf.conf into a pastebin.ca like site
(04:17:29) CaZe: mitt_romney: What's your publication?
(04:17:37) mitt_romney: pastebin.com
(04:18:04) mitt_romney: as I am tempted to say none of your busiess, but I shall hold back
(04:18:11) mitt_romney: a short story was my frist
(04:18:18) mitt_romney: publication
(04:18:28) l0rd_hex: was it about the verious smells of Bob Beck?
(04:18:32) l0rd_hex: or various
(04:18:36) CaZe: Is it on Amazon?
(04:18:37) mitt_romney: you still haven't shown your blog craze
(04:18:38) l0rd_hex: either or
(04:18:55) mitt_romney: l0rd_hex: I think you should compse an ode
(04:19:00) CaZe: mitt_romney: 04:14:56
(04:19:10) l0rd_hex: perhaps I shall
(04:19:11) mitt_romney: that is not your blog caze
(04:19:25) CaZe: Yeah it is.
(04:19:30) CaZe: I wrote that awesome HOWTO.
(04:19:33) mitt_romney: ok make a new entry
(04:19:40) mitt_romney: ;)
(04:19:43) l0rd_hex: "what the heck beck?" by l0rd hexington VII NOP NOP NOP
(04:19:48) mitt_romney: LOL
(04:20:00) l0rd_hex: what is that smell, could it be an old tuna fish sammich?
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(04:20:14) mitt_romney: bob beck was in a hilarious youtube where he talked about the virtual filesystem or something
(04:20:30) mitt_romney: high hilarity
(04:20:36) l0rd_hex: he got drunk and tried to marry a vnode at our christmas party
(04:20:50) l0rd_hex: totally ruined jesus's birthday imho
(04:20:55) mitt_romney: what would the ofspring have envisage I ponder
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(04:21:07) mitt_romney: jesus christ king of the jews!
(04:21:20) l0rd_hex: big deal, he didn't have CVS write perm
(04:21:49) l0rd_hex: annd science wasn't even invented yet
(04:22:06) mitt_romney: dymaxion car!
(04:22:12) mitt_romney: bubble houses!
(04:22:51) vxcvxcv is now known as DaZ
(04:22:56) l0rd_hex: CaZe: are you "DOLLAR_DEMOCRAT" ?
(04:23:29) CaZe: No, mitt_romney is.
(04:23:36) ***l0rd_hex is wrist-o-cat
(04:24:42) CaZe: He wrote that awesome HOWTO, where he tells people to move their entire /usr/ports to /home.
(04:24:52) mitt_romney: I mean it is true that you will see the most democratic action when each person keeps thier dollars and spends them as they are wont
(04:25:09) mitt_romney: craze why are you mad at me?
(04:25:19) CaZe: I'm not mad.
(04:25:21) CaZe: Are you?
(04:25:29) mitt_romney: I forget what I did, but I was not trying
(04:25:37) l0rd_hex: I did not know I could mount my 5 1/4" floppies with mount -t msdos
(04:25:42) l0rd_hex: until now!!!
(04:25:44) mitt_romney: it is similar when one accidentally steps on a beas nest
(04:25:48) mitt_romney: the beas are mad
(04:25:57) mitt_romney: but the person is lke oh crap what have i done
(04:26:06) mitt_romney: lol
(04:26:09) l0rd_hex: I think it's pronounced "bees"
(04:26:19) l0rd_hex: "beas" is the evil european spelling
(04:26:25) l0rd_hex: AND THEY HATE FREEDOM
(04:26:34) kwork: no we dont
(04:26:37) mitt_romney: a geas in dungeons n dragons was a mgic to make you go ona quest
(04:26:57) l0rd_hex: kwork: shh, I'm almost making sense
(04:27:10) kwork: l0rd_hex, thats usual for holidays
(04:27:23) kwork: expecting anything more would be way to optimstic
(04:27:25) l0rd_hex: I just ate a hotdog from 7-11
(04:27:27) mitt_romney: did you hear the UN started a commite to govern the interent
(04:27:29) mitt_romney: ?
(04:27:36) kwork: yeah
(04:27:38) mitt_romney: 7-11 rocks
(04:27:39) kwork: i wonder how it will realise
(04:27:49) l0rd_hex: I heard Obama was born on a tea train
(04:27:51) kwork: they are going to configure everyone routers :P?
(04:28:09) kwork: if govs wont make some BS laws
(04:28:11) kwork: nothing will hapen
(04:28:14) l0rd_hex: I proclaim myself KING OF THE TUBES
(04:28:15) mitt_romney: chris mattews said on tv "why does obama just send me a photcopy of his birth cert and ill end thatr chartter"
(04:28:35) l0rd_hex: mitt_romney: he probably lost it in the move to the White House
(04:28:36) mitt_romney: runequest II is too overcomplicated a role playing game
(04:28:39) mitt_romney: Im kinda pissed
(04:28:52) l0rd_hex: I once lost 1/3 of a pizza during a move
(04:29:05) l0rd_hex: I put it into my digestive system for safe keeping
(04:29:37) l0rd_hex: no_mind: didja do that thing yet?
(04:29:54) mitt_romney: mm pizza
(04:30:13) mitt_romney: I got 50 horror movie pack from amazon.com
(04:30:16) mitt_romney: rockin
(04:30:24) mitt_romney: and 50 movie scifi
(04:30:30) mitt_romney: <---life is grand
(04:30:51) l0rd_hex: why are you mad at Oburma for spending all your tokens when Ivana Bush tricked you into a water fight that cost like a billion zillion beans?
(04:31:34) l0rd_hex: plus Benji Burnankie had that cute little beard
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(04:33:44) l0rd_hex: I'm talking to YOU romney,mittens
(04:34:54) mitt_romney: cuz obama spent more than bush by far
(04:35:06) l0rd_hex: you sure 'bout that?
(04:35:16) mitt_romney: and governmetn banking fed and fanny freddy etc caused 2008 and obama not fixing them
(04:35:20) mitt_romney: oh sure
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(04:35:27) CaZe: Obama fixed them.
(04:35:32) mitt_romney: on bailouts alone obama qudrupled bush
(04:35:41) l0rd_hex: weren't those bail outs happening when bushy was still prez?
(04:35:42) CaZe: He did a great job.
(04:35:48) mitt_romney: no no obama nad his cohorts are cuasing worst deficits ever
(04:35:50) mitt_romney: very bad
(04:35:58) mitt_romney: rsing governmetn spending very bad
(04:36:12) mitt_romney: should cut until difict much smaller
(04:36:17) l0rd_hex: you might wanna.. double check some of those hilarious calculations
(04:36:22) mitt_romney: bush did so so job
(04:36:24) CaZe: Should have cut tax breaks for over $250K.
(04:36:26) mitt_romney: obama terrible
(04:36:31) mitt_romney: obama 5x worse than bush
(04:36:40) CaZe: Oh wait, who made those tax breaks in the first place?
(04:36:52) mitt_romney: the soc aled bush tax cuts cut taxes for all americans
(04:36:55) l0rd_hex: Walter Kronkie!!
(04:37:04) mitt_romney: I dont see obama saying "ok no taxes unless you make 250k"
(04:37:06) mitt_romney: lol
(04:37:20) mitt_romney: the obama tax hike jsut passed, raised the death tax to 35%
(04:37:26) mitt_romney: imagine paying tax all your life
(04:37:29) mitt_romney: not squandering
(04:37:30) CaZe: You weren't paing attention last week.
(04:37:32) mitt_romney: then when die
(04:37:34) mitt_romney: gank!
(04:37:37) l0rd_hex: I can see Obama saying "don't poop in that corner, that corner is mine!"
(04:37:51) mitt_romney: I dont get capital gains at all
(04:37:58) mitt_romney: I alreayd paid tax on income
(04:38:03) mitt_romney: which is unconstituional
(04:38:12) l0rd_hex: I can see the cuts to education have not hurt your learn'd at all 100% very much
(04:38:12) mitt_romney: then if I dont blow my cash
(04:38:20) mitt_romney: if I maage by some charm to make some money
(04:38:23) mitt_romney: you take MORE
(04:38:27) mitt_romney: in "cap gain"
(04:38:30) mitt_romney: thats insane
(04:38:31) l0rd_hex: income tax != constitutional issue
(04:38:40) mitt_romney: income tax corect is unconstitutional
(04:38:52) l0rd_hex: not tissue, issue
(04:38:57) mitt_romney: the income tax few know was passed by promising to tax only those over X amount if income
(04:39:00) mitt_romney: same rhetoric obama
(04:39:16) mitt_romney: did you know that?
(04:39:31) mitt_romney: income tax was supposed ot be over 100k or some number back in the day
(04:39:36) l0rd_hex: do they tax people who make < $10,000 ?
(04:39:38) mitt_romney: suprise we now al pay
(04:40:01) mitt_romney: I think the fairtax.org say something like no taxes until make 30k?
(04:40:04) mitt_romney: I forget for sure
(04:40:52) l0rd_hex: what wrong with paying some taxes though? I enjoy paved roads and non-poisoned water
(04:41:18) CaZe: That makes you a communist.
(04:41:27) l0rd_hex: Commrade, no no
(04:41:29) kwork: the whole openbsd scene is commies
(04:41:38) kwork: giving something away for free
(04:41:40) kwork: that must be communism
(04:41:46) l0rd_hex: it's the Canadian way
(04:41:47) mitt_romney: it is a matter of degree
(04:41:56) l0rd_hex: also I think Theo is the the south of Africa
(04:42:04) oenone: giving away for free != communism
(04:42:04) mitt_romney: in the beginning import taxes paid for defense and government
(04:42:09) mitt_romney: but the governmetn was small
(04:42:14) mitt_romney: local governemtn more important
(04:42:21) l0rd_hex: could I fit the fovernment into a VW bug?
(04:42:23) mitt_romney: charity si a ok
(04:42:34) mitt_romney: as long as its not charity at gunpoint eh?
(04:42:36) l0rd_hex: lol, italians
(04:42:44) l0rd_hex: you can move to the moon ya know
(04:42:49) l0rd_hex: no taxes there
(04:43:01) mitt_romney: not much air on moon
(04:43:08) oenone: you can't own land on the moon
(04:43:10) l0rd_hex: just bring your own
(04:43:15) mitt_romney: Italians?
(04:43:29) mitt_romney: Italian ice cream I hear dis quite something.
(04:43:44) l0rd_hex: momma mia, it's a private industry
(04:44:14) l0rd_hex: okay, so move to the moon and provide your own oxygen.. the pesky government won't be pinching your bum there
(04:44:39) l0rd_hex: if you want, the gov't will provide the oxygen but you'll have to pay tax to pay for it
(04:45:15) l0rd_hex: unless you want to join Mittens Romney 3000 on the dark side (it's made of cheese)
(04:45:16) mitt_romney: rather reform usa a little
(04:45:35) mitt_romney: Mitt will make mincemeat out of Obama in a debate.
(04:45:41) mitt_romney: good ole mitt
(04:45:50) l0rd_hex: mincemeat = poop his pants?
(04:45:52) mitt_romney: hek he beat obama to working state wide healthcare
(04:45:59) mitt_romney: and so little pres about it
(04:46:06) l0rd_hex: why don't you guys want health care?
(04:46:21) mitt_romney: mitt made it a law like car insurance
(04:46:25) mitt_romney: have to have
(04:46:30) mitt_romney: and it worked
(04:46:34) CaZe: Romney is as good a candidate as Palin.
(04:46:42) l0rd_hex: it kinda seemed like the insurance companies were just geetin a few people angry and then the whole masses were like "OH SHIZ WE WANT iPADZ"
(04:46:46) oenone: l0rd_hex: who do you mean with "you guys"?
(04:46:47) l0rd_hex: lol
(04:47:02) l0rd_hex: oenone: Americanos
(04:47:07) mitt_romney: I am curious about canada system.
(04:47:18) l0rd_hex: here polar bears do all the work
(04:47:18) oenone: k
(04:47:20) mitt_romney: Id love to see some cost brekadowns
(04:47:27) oenone: i'm quite happy with German health care
(04:47:39) mitt_romney: how much does it cost per citizen?
(04:47:45) mitt_romney: and how many are covered?
(04:47:51) l0rd_hex: everyone is covered
(04:47:52) CaZe: Most countries spend about 6% of their healthcare budget on administrative costs.
(04:47:52) l0rd_hex: that
(04:47:53) mitt_romney: how are costs controlled?
(04:47:59) CaZe: The US spends 22%.
(04:48:00) l0rd_hex: magic
(04:48:16) l0rd_hex: we adopted all of the harry potter books as laws
(04:48:21) mitt_romney: 16% wasted it seems
(04:48:24) l0rd_hex: so we can just do spells and shit
(04:48:32) mitt_romney: ugh I hate harry potter
(04:48:37) mitt_romney: lame as hell
(04:48:42) mitt_romney: and the girl is homely
(04:48:44) l0rd_hex: is he the antichrist?
(04:48:58) mitt_romney: no that would be lady gaga
(04:49:30) l0rd_hex: okay, so you're not mad that your old administration tricked you into a 7 year war costing billions of taocs?
(04:49:34) l0rd_hex: *tacos
(04:49:34) mrcarrot: in finland the health care is for free (almost, something like 26 eur/year if you end up visiting a medic). but we have higher taxes instead. this is how it should be, i think
(04:49:37) oenone: radio gaga
(04:49:42) mitt_romney: well lets see
(04:49:49) mitt_romney: usa was attacked and 1000s died
(04:49:54) l0rd_hex: I mean, atleast health care you can .. use
(04:49:57) mitt_romney: saddam had wmd and no health inspector let in
(04:50:00) mitt_romney: mmm
(04:50:01) l0rd_hex: lol
(04:50:04) mitt_romney: well usa went in
(04:50:06) ***oenone must have missed when #openbsd became #politics
(04:50:12) l0rd_hex: did he hide them under his mattress?
(04:50:12) mitt_romney: russian n syrian moved wmd in time
(04:50:15) mitt_romney: as usa took over
(04:50:17) CaZe: Really? Saddam had WMD?
(04:50:27) l0rd_hex: oh right, I read that in people
(04:50:27) mitt_romney: and al queida fled to jordan and syria
(04:50:36) mitt_romney: yes a chem weapon lab truck was found
(04:50:41) mrcarrot: oenone: i think those are just drunk...
(04:50:42) mitt_romney: see rick santorums pres release
(04:51:01) CaZe: lol google santorum.
(04:51:09) l0rd_hex: oenone: it switches at midnight to a after hours jazz and politico club
(04:51:27) CaZe: Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum.
(04:51:48) l0rd_hex: mrcarrot: may I borrow your sauna?
(04:52:01) oenone: l0rd_hex: it's 11am
(04:52:13) mrcarrot: l0rd_hex: if you are kind...
(04:52:19) l0rd_hex: oenone: Teemu Selanne was going to lend me his
(04:52:28) mitt_romney: http://www.newshounds.us/2006/06/21/rick_santorum_announces_we_have_found_wmd_in_iraq.php
(04:52:35) l0rd_hex: oops, I mean mrcarrot
(04:52:50) l0rd_hex: oenone: maybe where you are, but it's 3am here
(04:53:03) mrcarrot: l0rd_hex: in finland we have more saunas than what we have households...
(04:53:05) CaZe: mitt_romney: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/06/21/dod-disavows-santorum/
(04:53:07) l0rd_hex: mrcarrot: I have beer
(04:53:12) mitt_romney: What I am curious about is if the health care system in canada is sustainable due to their lack of defense spending?
(04:53:23) l0rd_hex: we spend lots of defence
(04:53:35) mitt_romney: I think the USA should copy successful elements unjoealoously
(04:53:35) CaZe: Fox News. Jim Angle contacted the Defense Department who quickly disavowed Santorum and Hoekstra.s claims. A Defense Department official told Angle flatly that the munitions hyped by Santorum and Hoekstra are .not the WMD.s for which this country went to war..
(04:53:37) l0rd_hex: we also build high quality cedar fences
(04:54:17) mitt_romney: "Since 2003 coalition forces have recovered about 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent
(04:54:32) l0rd_hex: we, like Germany and Finland and possibly the moon pay more taxes so we don't die
(04:54:46) mitt_romney: the intelligence communities of germany uk etc confirmed that iraq was indeed block wepaons inspections
(04:54:51) mitt_romney: and so the USA made a choice
(04:55:02) mitt_romney: for safety
(04:55:08) mitt_romney: and the war was a smashing victory
(04:55:09) CaZe: mitt_romney: Next we can go to war with Iran over a box of bullets.
(04:55:20) l0rd_hex: mitt_romney: "The war in Irock was over skittles and beer" - Dork Chainy
(04:55:31) l0rd_hex: FAX
(04:55:35) mitt_romney: I wish cheany would run for president
(04:55:35) l0rd_hex: do not ignore them
(04:55:38) mitt_romney: Id vote for him
(04:55:48) l0rd_hex: he pretty much was president
(04:55:50) CaZe: He was already president.
(04:55:54) mitt_romney: fact: capitalism works and communism fails
(04:55:59) l0rd_hex: he locked GW in a closet for like 8 years
(04:56:05) l0rd_hex: CaZe: ziing!
(04:56:14) mitt_romney: bsh had great economy and kept usa safe 8 yaers
(04:56:17) CaZe: Fact: USA is failing and China is winning.
(04:56:29) mitt_romney: government finance caused 2008 and fed didnt stop it with a truck flla princeton phd
(04:56:36) mitt_romney: all keyneiians I may add
(04:56:40) mitt_romney: nor did fed stop 1999
(04:56:43) mitt_romney: wooooo weee
(04:56:46) mitt_romney: fail o rama
(04:56:56) mitt_romney: then obama backs same government finance
(04:56:59) mitt_romney: fredy fannie fed
(04:57:09) mitt_romney: and obama wants o create a new microfed for highays
(04:57:12) mitt_romney: woo weee
(04:57:14) CaZe: And you continue to ignore the fact that Bush was President right in the middle of when that was all happening.
(04:57:28) l0rd_hex: wait, didn't like... the Bush administration bail out Freddy and Fanny?
(04:57:36) mitt_romney: clinton was one who signed decree that fannie had to lend to any poor idiot
(04:57:43) l0rd_hex: CaZe: we should mind meld
(04:57:43) mitt_romney: fanie n freddy +fed =2008
(04:57:46) mitt_romney: thanks billy
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(04:58:14) mitt_romney: the bailoust were mostly democrats
(04:58:22) mitt_romney: half of republciancs held out
(04:58:30) l0rd_hex: FAX, double check 'em
(04:58:31) mitt_romney: all dems voted for it immedialty save kuchinich
(04:58:40) mitt_romney: and obama quadrupled bailouts
(04:58:49) mitt_romney: at least lehman went out under bush
(04:59:00) l0rd_hex: do you realize what would have happened if major banks collapsed?
(04:59:05) mitt_romney: yep
(04:59:08) l0rd_hex: we would be eating our shoes
(04:59:12) mitt_romney: banks would step in who didnt have problems
(04:59:16) mitt_romney: and buy up assets
(04:59:20) mitt_romney: and those would lend yep
(04:59:24) mitt_romney: aka nuthin
(04:59:29) mitt_romney: not at all
(04:59:32) mitt_romney: all scare tacitic
(04:59:35) l0rd_hex: those banks would have been foreign banks
(04:59:39) mitt_romney: no
(04:59:39) l0rd_hex: like the PROC
(04:59:53) mitt_romney: tons fo banks steed clear of mortgage bakced
(04:59:54) l0rd_hex: name one bank untouched by the finanial crisis
(04:59:55) l0rd_hex: ONE
(05:00:18) mitt_romney: id have to look it up
(05:00:31) mitt_romney: but many did
(05:00:34) mitt_romney: steer clear
(05:00:42) l0rd_hex: seriously though, so many of your banks are know owned by foreign banks
(05:00:49) mitt_romney: I dont know
(05:01:00) l0rd_hex: because no sizable bank could have bought up all these toxic assets
(05:01:05) l0rd_hex: and just wrote them off
(05:01:17) mitt_romney: oh they are slowly taxing that away
(05:01:24) mitt_romney: remember deficit is a interest bearing tax
(05:01:40) CaZe: mitt_romney: What was the stock market at when Bush took office?
(05:01:46) mitt_romney: I was talking to this guy in a bar
(05:01:49) CaZe: mitt_romney: And where was it when he left office?
(05:01:53) mitt_romney: when was the net bubble?
(05:02:10) mitt_romney: oh wiat was it bursting when clinton was stealign the silverware outa the white house?
(05:02:13) mitt_romney: ohhhhh yeahhh
(05:02:27) mitt_romney: you cant comapre a peak to a valley
(05:02:29) mitt_romney: jeesh
(05:02:38) mitt_romney: anyway back to the bar
(05:02:43) l0rd_hex: mitt_romney: do you know what makes up the majority of your debt?
(05:02:55) l0rd_hex: DVDs at blockbuster
(05:03:01) l0rd_hex: JFK rented like 10 movies
(05:03:04) mitt_romney: this guy said "while usa was having all these problems many many hard assets were build, lots fo new housing stock"
(05:03:08) CaZe: mitt_romney: net bubble was '01
(05:03:10) l0rd_hex: and never returned them
(05:03:18) CaZe: mitt_romney: One year after Bush took office.
(05:03:22) mitt_romney: so this persons view was that hard assets-->usa crappy paper--->others
(05:03:32) l0rd_hex: then jimmy carter wanted to see "ice station zebra"
(05:03:39) mitt_romney: caze I fail to folow
(05:03:44) mitt_romney: please spit it out
(05:03:47) CaZe: mitt_romney: You fail period.
(05:03:54) CaZe: Just like Bush.
(05:03:55) mitt_romney: subjective boorish statement
(05:04:02) mitt_romney: x2
(05:04:04) l0rd_hex: be he couldn't because Lincon used the whitehouse's only phone number on the account
(05:04:17) mitt_romney: What is amazing
(05:04:21) mitt_romney: is that instead of GM
(05:04:28) mitt_romney: obama coulda bought AMD for 2B
(05:04:39) mitt_romney: and hired all the american poor to work in chip factory!
(05:04:42) mitt_romney: WOA
(05:04:43) l0rd_hex: bush coulda done it first
(05:04:45) mitt_romney: good communism!
(05:05:03) mitt_romney: all uneployed and poor should get 0 welfare but basic house making job
(05:05:08) l0rd_hex: are there even AMD factories in the USA?
(05:05:11) CaZe: How many workers can you fit in a chip factory in Germany?
(05:05:11) mitt_romney: then lots houses amde and houses cheap
(05:05:21) mitt_romney: does germany make a chip?
(05:05:26) mitt_romney: thats a good question
(05:05:29) l0rd_hex: mitt_romney: yes, potato
(05:05:30) CaZe: AMDs latest fab was opened in Germany.
(05:05:31) mitt_romney: siemens make chips?
(05:05:50) mitt_romney: what is the AMD of germany?
(05:05:57) mitt_romney: China has a chop
(05:06:00) mitt_romney: er chip
(05:06:34) CaZe: mitt_romney: How many jobs does making chips produce as opposed to working the entire supply chain of the auto industry?
(05:06:44) mitt_romney: I wodner how much the company that makes ARM cpu is worth now?
(05:06:55) l0rd_hex: Marvell?
(05:06:57) CaZe: You mean Apple?
(05:07:02) mitt_romney: jobs are not valueble in of themselves
(05:07:12) mitt_romney: there is always work since humans wants>needs
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(05:07:32) mitt_romney: the ARM chip might take over
(05:07:53) mitt_romney: heck if the S40 forth chip ever got aorund to making an internet pc with nice gui
(05:07:55) mitt_romney: they might
(05:08:10) l0rd_hex: I heard Obama hates guis
(05:08:20) mitt_romney: GI s maybe
(05:08:20) l0rd_hex: and he wants to turn everything back into 1s and 0s
(05:08:53) mitt_romney: you have spies in the administration don't you
(05:08:53) l0rd_hex: he was born in a cross fire hurricane
(05:09:00) mitt_romney: chris matthew funny
(05:09:17) mitt_romney: "why doesn't obama send me copy of his birth cert and ill end the discussion right now"
(05:09:22) mitt_romney: LOL
(05:09:24) mitt_romney: epik
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(05:09:54) CaZe: Did Bush show anyone his birth certificate?
(05:09:57) mitt_romney: what is interesting about the healthcare problem
(05:10:11) l0rd_hex: seriously though, what would it really matter if he wasn't born in the states?
(05:10:17) l0rd_hex: would there be a do-over?
(05:10:19) mitt_romney: is a free market response would be "train 500,00 new doctors" and end the shortage
(05:10:23) l0rd_hex: flux capacitor style?
(05:10:27) mitt_romney: build 50,000 new hospitals
(05:10:37) CaZe: How much does it cost to train a doctor?
(05:10:42) mitt_romney: I am suprise reagan was shot
(05:10:45) mitt_romney: but obama not
(05:10:47) CaZe: Hint: Over $1M
(05:10:54) mitt_romney: lower that cost
(05:10:58) mitt_romney: mass production
(05:10:58) l0rd_hex: most doctors can be trained for a fried chicken and a pack of smokes
(05:11:05) mitt_romney: mass production
(05:11:13) You are now known as mass_production
(05:11:19) mass_production: mass productionis awesome
(05:11:32) l0rd_hex: I don't think just getting 500,000 doctors is going to solve your problem mittems
(05:11:33) mass_production: well college should be 3,000 a year
(05:11:37) mass_production: videotape the basatrds
(05:11:43) mass_production: have few lab oversers
(05:11:45) l0rd_hex: you'll have to pay more tax for that :)
(05:11:56) mass_production: heck I leanred more on the net and privatly than from top college
(05:12:02) mass_production: not really
(05:12:07) CaZe: mass_production: What college?
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(05:12:09) l0rd_hex: which I'm 100% sure you went to
(05:12:14) mass_production: you see things can be done better for less money
(05:12:19) mass_production: thats the brilliance of the market
(05:12:28) mass_production: home school kids get 100% on tests
(05:12:32) mass_production: prefect SAt scores
(05:12:34) l0rd_hex: so the us gov should shop at walmart?
(05:12:42) mass_production: caze why does it matter?
(05:12:43) l0rd_hex: lol home school kids are retards
(05:12:57) mass_production: well thoe retards are getting engineering scholarhips
(05:13:00) mass_production: to top schools
(05:13:01) CaZe: mass_production: It matters because you didn't go to college.
(05:13:02) mass_production: her ein usa
(05:13:05) l0rd_hex: at 7-11 maybe
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(05:13:12) mass_production: who said I didn't goto college?
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(05:13:32) mass_production: I went to a school ranked in top 20 in USA for undergrad
(05:13:34) l0rd_hex: Mittens Romney told us
(05:13:34) CaZe: mass_production: I did.
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(05:13:45) mass_production: I majored in economics
(05:13:49) l0rd_hex: lol
(05:13:54) mass_production: where did you go craze
(05:13:55) l0rd_hex: dude.. seriously
(05:13:55) mass_production: ?
(05:14:03) mass_production: l0rd_hex: did you goto college?
(05:14:14) l0rd_hex: University of Alberta
(05:14:21) mass_production: what did you major?
(05:14:25) l0rd_hex: pharmacology
(05:14:53) mass_production: hm
(05:14:55) CaZe: lol BC bud
crazygir CryptoCrack
(05:15:10) mass_production: Crze you went to boston college?
(05:15:16) CaZe: Nope.
(05:15:18) CaZe: You?
(05:15:22) mass_production: nope
(05:15:29) mass_production: I said top 20
(05:15:46) mass_production: l0rd_hex: so how did you get into openbsd?
(05:15:53) mass_production: does U alberta use openbsd?
(05:16:03) l0rd_hex: ... ftp.openbsd.org = ualberta.ca
(05:16:06) CaZe: lol
(05:16:09) CaZe: looool
(05:16:47) l0rd_hex: ftp ftp.openbsd.org -? Connected to openbsd.sunsite.ualberta.ca.
(05:16:54) l0rd_hex: 'nuff said
(05:18:03) mass_production: ah is that where bob back lives?
(05:18:05) mass_production: er works
(05:18:14) mass_production: thats kinda cool
(05:18:26) mass_production: do the compsci courses on operating systems examine openbsd code?
(05:18:37) mass_production: that would be interesting indeed
(05:18:38) l0rd_hex: I dunno, we don't have computers
(05:18:49) mass_production: ??
(05:18:53) kwork: you have computers ?!?!?!
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(05:18:58) mass_production: I must have misparsed that
(05:19:07) mass_production: sarcsm is such a booor
(05:19:13) mass_production: booo
(05:19:18) l0rd_hex: a "bpppr
(05:19:22) l0rd_hex: a "booor" indeed
(05:19:27) mass_production: here let me demonstrat
(05:19:30) l0rd_hex: a wild booor perhaps
(05:19:40) mass_production: "oh so you are afraid fo he vASt right wing conspiracy??"
(05:19:52) CaZe: That's not sarcasm.
(05:19:58) l0rd_hex: I am afraid for the US education system, that is for certain
(05:20:04) mass_production: "oh you believe spending MORE than you ahve is bad for a person, but stimulus for the governmetn eh?"
(05:20:07) mass_production: see?
(05:20:08) mass_production: boorish
(05:20:14) l0rd_hex: the " gave it away
(05:20:21) CaZe: That's just being illiterate.
(05:20:28) l0rd_hex: I SLEEP NOW
(05:20:42) mass_production: what do the compsci classes use for programming? scheme? ML? lisp?
(05:20:48) mass_production: please tell me its not python
(05:20:55) CaZe: FORTH
(05:20:58) l0rd_hex: we program directly in electricity
(05:21:04) kwork: mass_production, why not python?
(05:21:05) l0rd_hex: and we write the registers on a black board
(05:21:06) mass_production: caze you are very concerned with intelligence yet seem to have a low net worth
(05:21:11) mass_production: how do you explain this?
(05:21:14) kwork: mass_production, i would say you have far more todo with python then with lisp
(05:21:16) mass_production: [no sarcasm]
(05:21:31) CaZe: mass_production: Your question is wrong.
(05:21:33) mass_production: well MIT I heard switched to python
(05:21:49) l0rd_hex: I heard MIT just had a snake problem
(05:21:51) mass_production: kwork: ?
(05:21:57) kwork: ?
(05:21:59) mass_production: as in work to do?
(05:22:29) mass_production: python sigh alludes to monty python nto reptiles
(05:22:39) mass_production: silly oreilly books notwithstanding
(05:23:03) CaZe: mass_production: If you're claiming that a high net worth correlates to a high intelligence, then you are a counter example to your own claim.
(05:23:09) mass_production: kwork: mass_production, i would say you have far more todo with python then with lisp
(05:23:23) mass_production: kwork: I am perhaps not parsing this right?
(05:23:40) CaZe: mass_production: Seems pretty likely given that you're illiterate.
(05:23:41) mass_production: you would I guss prefer python? or mean lisp is less work?
(05:23:59) mass_production: CaZe: by definition if I can read your banal insults I am not illiterate
(05:24:33) mass_production: oh contrire to the intelligence claim I was measured with a high iq?
(05:24:44) mass_production: what pray tell does indicate a high intelligence to you craze?
(05:24:46) CaZe: Is that a question?
(05:24:56) mass_production: an addition to jon stewart late night marathons?
(05:24:57) CaZe: No.
(05:24:59) mass_production: perhaps
(05:25:09) mass_production: or having a poster of barak obama in my bathroom?
(05:25:15) CaZe: You put a question mark at the end of that sentence.
(05:25:22) CaZe: That makes it a question.
(05:25:31) mass_production: so eveyroine not a rabit bill clinton buddy is the same as a grantite gargoyle? is that it?
(05:25:44) CaZe: lol
(05:25:53) mass_production: my gosh I begin to wonder if you are someone who simply livs in mom basement
(05:25:57) CaZe: The more I point out your illiteracy, the worse you get.
(05:26:05) mass_production: until they apply to grad school or something
(05:26:12) mass_production: I can not explain your position
(05:26:32) CaZe: Of course not.
(05:26:47) CaZe: You know nothing of my position, because I haven't said anything about it.
(05:27:04) mass_production: well it is the heidth of impropriety for a penniless unaccmploshed rogue such as yourself to go on and on about the education of a fine fellow such as myself with a comfy net worth
(05:27:17) CaZe: Your net worth is $0.
(05:27:18) mass_production: in fact I am not ebing paid to listen to you as no doubt your shrink is
(05:27:23) mass_production: som please desist!
(05:27:23) l0rd_hex: heidth? that sounds like a $10 word if I every heard one
(05:27:34) mass_production: I have been rading jack vnace
(05:27:47) mass_production: and mr vance uses 50% words like deodand
(05:28:08) CaZe: What's a 50% word?
(05:28:12) You are now known as l0rd_dollar
(05:28:19) kwork: mass_production, i mean that i have had interactions with loads of python applications in my daily work
(05:28:20) l0rd_hex: CaZe: half of a 100% one :)
(05:28:22) kwork: never anything with lisp
(05:28:23) CaZe: Or are you saying that half the words he uses is "deodand?"
(05:28:33) l0rd_dollar: kwork: what do you think? is python nice?
(05:28:35) kwork: so for system administrator python is far more thing to know
(05:29:07) kwork: l0rd_dollar, its nice, but needs some time to get used do
(05:29:10) l0rd_hex: python is directly resposibly for the bail outs!
(05:29:24) l0rd_dollar: python is part of the evil republican inncer circle!
(05:29:28) l0rd_dollar: lol
(05:29:33) kwork: nah you are talking about java there :P
(05:29:35) l0rd_hex: import freddie_mac
(05:29:45) l0rd_dollar: java is a democrat thru n thru
(05:29:50) l0rd_dollar: expensive and non productive
(05:29:52) l0rd_dollar: lol
(05:30:09) kwork: java good because it works on all oses - is like sayin analsex is good because it works on all genders
(05:30:22) l0rd_dollar: import fed_spedning 9 trillion lending to forign banks[thanks mr assang]
(05:30:25) CaZe: santorum
(05:30:41) l0rd_dollar: object oriented programming is the roman numerals of computing
(05:30:48) l0rd_dollar: rick santorum
(05:30:54) CaZe: l0rd_dollar: You don't even know how to program.
(05:31:00) l0rd_dollar: R senator formely of PA
(05:31:14) l0rd_dollar: CaZe: do you run any open source projects?
(05:31:21) CaZe: Santorum 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.
(05:31:35) l0rd_dollar: gross man gross
(05:31:55) l0rd_dollar: lol
(05:32:52) CaZe: l0rd_dollar: What programming languages do you know?
(05:32:58) l0rd_dollar: Santorum is a sexual neologism proposed by American humorist and sex-advice columnist Dan Savage in 2003 to "memorialize" then-US Republican senator Rick Santorum from Pennsylvania due to . [oh its a democrat newspeak I forgot]
(05:33:26) l0rd_dollar: the vast left wing conspitracy gets 2003 new words onto top of google in jsut 7 years
(05:33:29) l0rd_dollar: WOW
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(05:34:37) styelz: powa
(05:34:39) l0rd_dollar: so ronald reagan must by now be "a german artist who rose to power and waged world war2"
(05:34:51) l0rd_dollar: lol
(05:34:57) l0rd_dollar: and the obama tax hike
(05:35:06) l0rd_dollar: is the expiring of evil bush tax cut
(05:35:07) l0rd_dollar: LOL
(05:35:10) l0rd_dollar: doublespeak
(05:35:16) l0rd_dollar: wow
(05:35:32) l0rd_dollar: and then kids lke craze read this and get knickers in a twist
(05:35:38) l0rd_dollar: but they can VOTE
(05:35:41) l0rd_dollar: wow
(05:35:56) CaZe: l0rd_dollar: Did you even vote in the last election?
(05:37:32) l0rd_dollar: did you?
(05:37:35) l0rd_dollar: i did yes
(05:37:40) l0rd_dollar: why?
(05:37:55) CaZe: No you didn't.
(05:38:06) l0rd_dollar: sure I did
(05:38:16) l0rd_dollar: but not for mr obama
(05:38:18) l0rd_dollar: ;)
(05:38:27) CaZe: Who did you vote for?
(05:39:38) l0rd_dollar: mitt romney in the primary
(05:39:45) CaZe: lol
(05:39:45) l0rd_dollar: john mccain in the general
(05:39:56) l0rd_dollar: I voted twice for george bush
(05:40:01) l0rd_dollar: and for ross perot
(05:40:02) CaZe: If you voted for him then why didn't he win?
(05:40:07) l0rd_dollar: as well as arnold schwartzennegger
(05:40:17) l0rd_dollar: well the majority voted the other way
(05:40:21) l0rd_dollar: thats usualy why
(05:40:26) CaZe: Did you ask him to show you his birth certificate?
(05:40:43) l0rd_dollar: I am curious about mr obama's
(05:40:52) l0rd_dollar: why doesn't he simply send it to chris matthews
(05:41:01) l0rd_dollar: chris has offered to end the controversy
(05:41:29) l0rd_dollar: caze when will you move out from moms?
(05:41:43) kwork: l0rd_dollar, you dont feed the trolls
(05:41:50) kwork: havent you learned anything from the irc :P
(05:41:50) CaZe: Because Chris Matthews is a fucking fascist?
(05:41:51) l0rd_dollar: if you are a good programmer you should make $$ enuf
(05:42:03) l0rd_dollar: fascism is governmetn control
(05:42:24) CaZe: l0rd_dollar: Did Bush show Chris Matthews his birth certificate?
(05:42:30) l0rd_dollar: kwork: where were we on the python front?
(05:42:36) l0rd_dollar: yes he did
(05:42:50) CaZe: No he didn't you liar.
(05:42:56) l0rd_dollar: sure he did
(05:43:07) l0rd_dollar: he was harvard MBA
(05:43:13) l0rd_dollar: you have to show it for admissions
(05:43:25) l0rd_dollar: and attourney general of texas
(05:43:31) l0rd_dollar: you have to show it during interview
(05:43:53) CaZe: Oh and Obama didn't go to Harvard.
(05:43:58) l0rd_dollar: bush did
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(05:44:22) oenone: i've got this xscale box.. what OS should i run on it?
(05:44:33) CaZe: So did Obama you idiot.
(05:46:02) l0rd_dollar: not for an MBA you moron
(05:46:09) l0rd_dollar: lol
(05:46:44) l0rd_dollar: caze you are poor because you act this way
(05:46:48) l0rd_dollar: poor
(05:46:57) CaZe: l0rd_dollar: You are poor because you're illiterate.
(05:46:58) l0rd_dollar: focus on making money and being happy
(05:47:02) l0rd_dollar: I am not poor
(05:47:06) CaZe: Yes you are.
(05:47:13) l0rd_dollar: I am pretty well off as it turns out
(05:47:23) l0rd_dollar: adn in general quite happy
(05:47:25) CaZe: Are you on welfare?
(05:47:34) l0rd_dollar: perish the thought
(05:47:36) CaZe: That would sort of make you a hypocrite, wouldn't it?
(05:47:41) l0rd_dollar: yes
(05:47:45) l0rd_dollar: it would
(05:48:05) l0rd_dollar: hypocracy is part of the human condition unfortunatly
(05:48:14) l0rd_dollar: I mean humans are sexually competitive
(05:48:48) l0rd_dollar: it is our nature to catch all the hot momeners fo the opposite sex and destroy competitors, and secure supplies
(05:49:09) l0rd_dollar: fortunatly modern society evolved so we dont have rash killing and willy nilly theft
(05:49:26) CaZe: And you don't need to show a birth certificate for HBS.
(05:49:40) l0rd_dollar: I made that up
(05:49:44) CaZe: I know.
(05:49:45) l0rd_dollar: i never went to HBS
(05:49:49) CaZe: You make everything up.
(05:49:56) l0rd_dollar: if you say so
(05:50:02) l0rd_dollar: maybe I made you up
(05:50:03) CaZe: That's how I know that you didn't go to college, and you're poor.
(05:50:10) l0rd_dollar: no thats you caze
(05:50:26) l0rd_dollar: ;)
(05:50:31) CaZe: The fact that you're uneducated is pretty obvious.
(05:50:41) l0rd_dollar: interesting
(05:50:49) l0rd_dollar: what makes you say that?
(05:50:58) l0rd_dollar: because I didnt vote for mr obama?
(05:51:06) CaZe: Because you're illiterate.
(05:51:09) l0rd_dollar: millions of others are uneduated too I guess
(05:51:17) CaZe: Indeed.
(05:51:19) l0rd_dollar: including I dunno mitt roney who is worth what a billion?
(05:51:27) l0rd_dollar: and donald trump
(05:51:35) l0rd_dollar: and mr bloomberg
(05:51:40) CaZe: You can't even spell his name right you illiterate bastard.
(05:51:49) l0rd_dollar: they are uneduated tools as well?
(05:52:04) CaZe: If you say so I guess.
(05:52:09) l0rd_dollar: I am not a professinal typist sorry
(05:52:16) l0rd_dollar: caze why do I bug you?
(05:52:22) l0rd_dollar: at the core?
(05:52:23) CaZe: Though I'm sure Mitt Romney can at least spell his name right.
(05:52:28) l0rd_dollar: Mitt is cool
(05:52:40) l0rd_dollar: I hope he gets to be president in 2012
(05:52:46) l0rd_dollar: I will vote for him.
(05:52:47) CaZe: It will never happen.
(05:52:49) l0rd_dollar: again
(05:53:01) l0rd_dollar: he is the odds on favorite I hope you realise?
(05:53:13) l0rd_dollar: unless the gentleman in new jersey steps it up
(05:53:18) l0rd_dollar: or newt going nuts
(05:53:26) CaZe: Do you realize that he's a Mormon?
(05:53:31) l0rd_dollar: who do you see as front runner?
(05:53:33) l0rd_dollar: so?
(05:53:36) CaZe: Palin.
(05:53:38) l0rd_dollar: JFK was a catholic
(05:53:42) l0rd_dollar: palin lol
(05:53:52) CaZe: That's why Obama will get a second term.
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(05:54:07) rajul: Hi all!
(05:54:08) l0rd_dollar: ha haa!!
(05:54:12) l0rd_dollar: now your fantasize
(05:54:18) rajul: How can I give a normal user permission to do "crontab -e"?
(05:54:25) CaZe: I'll vote for Palin in the primaries.
(05:54:33) pgurumur [~pgurumur@c-98-207-90-215.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room.
(05:54:41) l0rd_dollar: mr obama wreaed the economy, wants to tax the internet, and riased taxes, and unocnstitutionally shoved comy health care on usa pubic
(05:54:44) l0rd_dollar: obama is gone
(05:55:01) l0rd_dollar: he will be lucky to escape a primary rival
(05:55:11) CaZe: Nah.
(05:55:22) l0rd_dollar: I would even go so far as to say that mr kucinich would be a beter cnadidante
(05:55:37) l0rd_dollar: sicne federal reserve haters such as me might vote dem jsut for fun in such a case
(05:55:40) l0rd_dollar: oh sure
(05:55:45) l0rd_dollar: obama is for sure 1 termer
(05:55:54) l0rd_dollar: oil catastrophy
(05:55:56) l0rd_dollar: 2 wars
(05:56:00) l0rd_dollar: big defense spending
(05:56:04) l0rd_dollar: by by mr obama
(05:56:05) rajul: er
(05:56:09) l0rd_dollar: unemplooyment
(05:56:10) l0rd_dollar: ;)
(05:56:21) rajul: i'm sorry to interrupt your on-topic politics discussion ... :-P
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