Monday, July 25, 2011

glenn beck broke

http://www.glennbeck.com/book/broke-the-plan-to-restore-our-trust-truth-and-treasure/

Sunday, July 17, 2011

Sen. Coburn: I Could Cut $9 Trillion From Budget

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/TomCoburn-Budget-DebtLimit/2011/07/17/id/403882

(5:29:43 PM) republican_devil: thus the SAN is exploded and softraid direct wired is best

(5:29:43 PM) republican_devil: thus the SAN is exploded and softraid direct wired is best
(5:29:51 PM) republican_devil: SAN=scam
(5:29:55 PM) republican_devil: as is virtualization

Saturday, July 16, 2011

tits!!

http://bgb.juggcrew.com/60p/?t=19&nats=alxz75:Revshare:BGB,0,0,0,53686

Obama: 80% of Americans Want Higher Taxes

http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-80-of-americans-want-higher-taxes/

Friday, July 15, 2011

usb unix install setup

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_USB_stick

(10:25:16 PM) sonof_hastur: I say nuke the box

(10:25:16 PM) sonof_hastur: I say nuke the box
(10:25:19 PM) sonof_hastur: made it freebsd
(10:25:21 PM) sonof_hastur: and live life
(10:25:27 PM) sonof_hastur: stay away from virtualization
(10:25:30 PM) sonof_hastur: learn to program web apps
(10:25:40 PM) sonof_hastur: and stay awaau from SAN and use softraid 10 instead
(10:25:44 PM) sonof_hastur: but hey thats me

5:09:47 PM) sonof_hastur: bsd!!!

5:09:47 PM) sonof_hastur: bsd!!!
(5:09:50 PM) sonof_hastur: its shitter!!
(5:09:53 PM) sonof_hastur: who needs solaris now?
(5:09:56 PM) sonof_hastur: lol
(5:10:15 PM) dudz_: java developers
(5:11:57 PM) scanf: sonof_hastur: in the past 3 hours you have said that virtualization sucks and now who needs solaris
(5:12:11 PM) scanf: congratulations, youre clueless
(5:13:34 PM) sonof_hastur: no
(5:13:42 PM) sonof_hastur: I am actaulyl a demigod of technology
(5:13:48 PM) sonof_hastur: and make 85 an hour
(5:13:51 PM) sonof_hastur: and have 100k in bank
(5:13:57 PM) sonof_hastur: live 200yards from beach
(5:14:05 PM) sonof_hastur: hold degree in econ from top 20 usa university
(5:14:09 PM) sonof_hastur: and am 154 iq genius
(5:14:18 PM) sonof_hastur: and own my own llc and am a ceo
(5:14:27 PM) sonof_hastur: I have used all bsds
(5:14:35 PM) sonof_hastur: and 20 or so linuxen
(5:14:49 PM) sonof_hastur: and know why archlinu won the os wars
(5:14:53 PM) sonof_hastur: and why it will continue to win
(5:15:00 PM) Dianora: sonof_hastur: You are no 154IQ genius. Sorry little boy. You are not.
(5:15:03 PM) sonof_hastur: thats why I gave it the admin award for #1 os
(5:15:12 PM) sonof_hastur: netbsd freebsd didnt quite make it
(5:15:15 PM) sonof_hastur: I am
(5:15:19 PM) sonof_hastur: I was measured
(5:15:21 PM) Dianora: nope.
(5:15:26 PM) Dianora: Trust me. YOu are not.
(5:15:29 PM) sonof_hastur: no I am
(5:15:33 PM) sonof_hastur: trust me I am
(5:15:34 PM) sonof_hastur: 154
(5:15:41 PM) dudz_: sonof_hastur, univerties are for faggots
(5:15:53 PM) Dianora: dudz_: uh shush
(5:16:04 PM) aristarchus [~aristarch@c-76-113-0-247.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] entered the room.
(5:16:06 PM) Dianora: Now
(5:16:12 PM) Dianora: does someone have a FreeBSD problem?
(5:16:22 PM) sonof_hastur: I learned nothing at univerity
(5:16:28 PM) sonof_hastur: I am confident if put in control of UCLA
(5:16:33 PM) sonof_hastur: I would impove it vastly
(5:16:40 PM) sonof_hastur: as most things
(5:16:54 PM) sonof_hastur: zfs is not all that
(5:16:55 PM) dudz_: neck up
(5:16:58 PM) ***pfloyd wonders what happened to his ignore list
(5:17:04 PM) sonof_hastur: softriad 10 repalces it
(5:17:12 PM) aristarchus: Dianora: i do!
(5:17:15 PM) sonof_hastur: freebsd trust me should go all binary for pacakges
(5:17:21 PM) sonof_hastur: then it might compete with archlinux
(5:17:30 PM) sonof_hastur: exptra credit if it adopts gobolinux tree
(5:17:31 PM) Dianora: sonof_hastur: Take it to ##not_freebsd now please.
(5:17:40 PM) sonof_hastur: ok fine

wht men want shown in pic form

titz!!


http://gallys.realitykings.com/ip/91/5.jpg

amazin how little help bird had in later years, aside from parish n mchale, here he had tiny and cedric who were both solid starters anywhere in nba,

amazin how little help bird had in later years, aside from parish n mchale, here he had tiny and cedric who were both solid starters anywhere in nba, along with parish, if len bias hadnt cokes himself and rest fo years had been so harsh on celtics for draft, gosh bird could have 5 or more magic has

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWqcEEnLENk&playnext=1&list=PLBA996EE3F9BB646C

boston up by 17 over bird pippen, fuck jordan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0NMFf9Dkg

why you can't beat archlinux and it is the best current os in world

Gavin Schuette why is it better? raid 10 softraid cancels zfs, perforamnce equal or better esp with latest stabel kernel always, and all binary upgrades, yes no version 4 5 6, each part rolling release which is awesome advantage, and more stable than rest due to latet debugged code always easily obtained, so kicsk freebsd and solaris ass righ toff the bat, and debian cant match package system of arch and upgrade ease, since no os verions, redhat does not even compete with its shitty rpm system and old shitty code, and no backport isnt trusted, redaht a joke, not even equal to soalris or freebsd, so arch wins, come back after 1 year and sun pacman -Syu and reboot bam lastest code downloaded and isntall all binary 0 compiles, and packages are recent, also kicks soalris ass and to come extent openbsd and netbsd cuz no compiel programs problems inherent to bsd since msot code deved on linux, so for expaln plan9 tools and gforth compile easy, so arch is best os in the world, and FREE

Dianora in freebsd irc is sadly not enlightened

5:09:47 PM) sonof_hastur: bsd!!!
(5:09:50 PM) sonof_hastur: its shitter!!
(5:09:53 PM) sonof_hastur: who needs solaris now?
(5:09:56 PM) sonof_hastur: lol
(5:10:15 PM) dudz_: java developers
(5:11:57 PM) scanf: sonof_hastur: in the past 3 hours you have said that virtualization sucks and now who needs solaris
(5:12:11 PM) scanf: congratulations, youre clueless
(5:13:34 PM) sonof_hastur: no
(5:13:42 PM) sonof_hastur: I am actaulyl a demigod of technology
(5:13:48 PM) sonof_hastur: and make 85 an hour
(5:13:51 PM) sonof_hastur: and have 100k in bank
(5:13:57 PM) sonof_hastur: live 200yards from beach
(5:14:05 PM) sonof_hastur: hold degree in econ from top 20 usa university
(5:14:09 PM) sonof_hastur: and am 154 iq genius
(5:14:18 PM) sonof_hastur: and own my own llc and am a ceo
(5:14:27 PM) sonof_hastur: I have used all bsds
(5:14:35 PM) sonof_hastur: and 20 or so linuxen
(5:14:49 PM) sonof_hastur: and know why archlinu won the os wars
(5:14:53 PM) sonof_hastur: and why it will continue to win
(5:15:00 PM) Dianora: sonof_hastur: You are no 154IQ genius. Sorry little boy. You are not.
(5:15:03 PM) sonof_hastur: thats why I gave it the admin award for #1 os
(5:15:12 PM) sonof_hastur: netbsd freebsd didnt quite make it
(5:15:15 PM) sonof_hastur: I am
(5:15:19 PM) sonof_hastur: I was measured
(5:15:21 PM) Dianora: nope.
(5:15:26 PM) Dianora: Trust me. YOu are not.
(5:15:29 PM) sonof_hastur: no I am
(5:15:33 PM) sonof_hastur: trust me I am
(5:15:34 PM) sonof_hastur: 154
(5:15:41 PM) dudz_: sonof_hastur, univerties are for faggots
(5:15:53 PM) Dianora: dudz_: uh shush
(5:16:04 PM) aristarchus [~aristarch@c-76-113-0-247.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] entered the room.
(5:16:06 PM) Dianora: Now
(5:16:12 PM) Dianora: does someone have a FreeBSD problem?
(5:16:22 PM) sonof_hastur: I learned nothing at univerity
(5:16:28 PM) sonof_hastur: I am confident if put in control of UCLA
(5:16:33 PM) sonof_hastur: I would impove it vastly
(5:16:40 PM) sonof_hastur: as most things
(5:16:54 PM) sonof_hastur: zfs is not all that
(5:16:55 PM) dudz_: neck up
(5:16:58 PM) ***pfloyd wonders what happened to his ignore list
(5:17:04 PM) sonof_hastur: softriad 10 repalces it
(5:17:12 PM) aristarchus: Dianora: i do!
(5:17:15 PM) sonof_hastur: freebsd trust me should go all binary for pacakges
(5:17:21 PM) sonof_hastur: then it might compete with archlinux
(5:17:30 PM) sonof_hastur: exptra credit if it adopts gobolinux tree
(5:17:31 PM) Dianora: sonof_hastur: Take it to ##not_freebsd now please.
(5:17:40 PM) sonof_hastur: ok fine
(5:17:45 PM) Dianora: sonof_hastur: Shoo.

prices dropped where? what bs artist gov are masive inflation

http://www.moneynews.com/Economy/Consumer-Prices-drop-Core/2011/07/15/id/403681

losing weight

start by doing 130 minutes of cardio a day 7 days a week

add in 10 x 100m sprint 7 days a week and build up to 40 x 100m sprint a day 7 days a week

eat salad every mean and drink only water maybe with lemon

i say to myself sometimes, why if you are going to be a communist, not be a good communist?

i say to myself sometimes, why if you are going to be a communist, not be a good communist?

1 obama care does not build 1 hospital or train 1 doctor
2 if the government can do it better, of which I think there are few examples if any, why not mass produced housing for eveyone?
3 why not mass produced food?
4 why does public transport cost something? why not free just hop on?
5 for los angeles guys like me: why not 4 carpool lanes and 1 non carpool lane?
6 why not government run airline?
7 why not government run movie theater?
8 why not gov run handjob parlor? free!!! hey unemplyed people here is your new gig! enjoy!

Thursday, July 14, 2011

pimpn aint ez but its ne ce cary

nice


another example 10 wooo weeee

this is a ten folks, not beyonce, hale, nor gal from red riding hood

epic tits WOW

correct another moron dem who claims WAR spending caused 14T deficit LOL FOOLS

I didn't cause this fucking deficit, old people who got sick didn't cause this deficit, hungry children whose homes were foreclosed on illegally didn't cause this fucking crisis, your damned war profiteering did, tax cuts for the super rich did, corporate welfare did. (self.politics)

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[–]capitalismpolytheism -1 points0 points1 point 63 milliseconds ago

no moron, government overspending did, which is massive, not war, defense is 22% of GDP, look on wikipedia, and defense invents everything, its the megatons of welfare, and government waste that fuck up everything, and inflation is the result of the money printing :) thank obama for spending 5T 5TTTTTT and bailouts you know caused by governmetn mortgages allowed, thats the cause not wall st, who the hell the banks get the money from?

Tuesday, July 12, 2011

what a body WOW makes amber handsen look like a thai boy she is

democrats are illogical irrational morons

morons

another 10

an other 10


another 10 no no no no one in hillywood comes close

remind yall what a 10 looks like

dominique better athlete than jordan and bird did his to him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_eN0xPjzfY

end both wars

end both wars
put nukes in taiwan
create palestinean state
keep israel to 1967 borders

The final nail in the supply side coffin: taxes are low, interest rates are low, corporations are sitting on $2 trillion in cash - but nothing "trickl

The final nail in the supply side coffin: taxes are low, interest rates are low, corporations are sitting on $2 trillion in cash - but nothing "trickles down." (salon.com)

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[+]capitalismpolytheism -1 points0 points1 point 28 milliseconds ago (0 children)

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are you drunk?

taxes are LOW? government spending is low? both are highest in HISTORY of USA!! DEBT=highest in HISTORY of USA obama deficits =all other presidents combineD!!! pensions and fed priting money causing most infaltion in HISTORY

nothing capitalist about this!! at all!!

you are drunk or intentionally misguiding people

obama is the batshit candidate

obama is the batshit candidate

how much fail until a democrat admits they fucked up?

would we have to be 30trillion in debt?

then dem would step down and blame republican

stupid looters, print $$ adn giev to friend who cant hang in free system of enterprise cuz they suck

then friends get rich

then clim helping common man while producing nothign btu chaos

obama care trains 0 docs builds 0 hospitals

what it does is hire 1000s of burocrats to control already existing stuff with million rules and shadowy undefined powers

crippling marketplace producers and makign rich lil burocrat kings

right, end communist tax paid school

right, end communist tax paid school

let same innovation that brought pc and smartphone update education which lags 80 years+

video tape best experts

haev appreticeships

focus on production and leave bullshit poetry for private production and consumption and let it stand on its own two feet

freedom is all capitalists want, many georgists too, freedom to not be forced to buy a shitty product namely public school

remember 20,000 phd in keynesian economics at fed didnt stop 2008, 1998 or any other depression fed was created to fix

fed created great depression look it up fed created 1913 jsut 7 years to cause 1920 great depression :)

remember ronald reagan 8 peacetime years greatest growth in 100 years

obama care should be repealed, since ti builds not 1 hispital and trains not 1 doctor, all it does is hire 1000s of rule makers and gives them shadowy power to again corruptly control med biz BAD

reddit si such a left wing hunk of shit

If you really want to boycott Rupert Murdoch then you can't buy/listen/read/watch ANY of these.
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why would I want to boycott rupert? He has the only non communist tv out there. Rest is silly commnuist happy union fuck corruption bullshit
why would I want to boycott rupert? He has the only non communist tv out there. Rest is silly commnuist happy union fuck corruption bullshit
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dems to more than double the highest federal marginal rate of 28 percent when President Reagan left office in 1989. Welcome back to the 1970s.” (newsmax.com)

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What the HELL is going on?? $480 for taking right when no sign saying no turn on RED, says I gota pay fine b4 go infront of judge, WTF!!!! fascism communism traffic cameras!! I think outrageous even if slight rolling stop!! opinions? End all traffic cameras!! INSANE (facebook.com)

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[Video] US Muslim Senator Keith Ellison weeps during an emotional testimony about a Muslim 9/11 first responder in front of the the latest McCarthy style Senate hearings panel
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mccarthy a hero
mccarthy a hero
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Holy shit: Michigan quietly passes bill giving new Republican governor power to do anything in the name of economic stability: Void contracts, void collective bargaining agreements, dissolve town councils and school boards, fire elected officials, unincorporate towns, sell public property
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[–]bootiack -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 months ago

yes dissolve all the cockroad overpaid governmetn leeches living off of productive workers

AWESOME

the 80s ar eback and capitalism and freedom

LOVE IT

all u scumbag pension sit on your ass fucktwits and the gang boss dirty bastards who get rich offa it fuck you
yes dissolve all the cockroad overpaid governmetn leeches living off of productive workers AWESOME the 80s ar eback and capitalism and freedom LOVE IT all u scumbag pension sit on your ass fucktwits and the gang boss dirty bastards who get rich offa it fuck you
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I don't understand why socialism is such a scary concept, but corporatism is embraced by such a large portion of Americans.
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[–]bootiack -2 points-1 points0 points 4 months ago

because capitalism kicks communisms ass and the corporations scamming are doing so by paying off too big governmetn to stifle competition

duh
because capitalism kicks communisms ass and the corporations scamming are doing so by paying off too big governmetn to stifle competition duh
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I suggest we start referring to Republicans as "Regressives".
[+]bootiack -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 months ago (0 children)

[–]bootiack -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 months ago

objectively posative legislation

name one piece that has led to smaller government and more freedom and capitalism

every excuse to spend more money [inefficiently] through government

it never works

communism fails again and again and again

I suggest we refer to democrats as communists/fascists/nazis all3 are teh same big government ideas
objectively posative legislation name one piece that has led to smaller government and more freedom and capitalism every excuse to spend more money [inefficiently] through government it never works communism fails again and again and again I suggest we refer to democrats as communists/fascists/nazis all3 are teh same big government ideas
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The headline you won't be reading...
[+]bootiack -1 points0 points1 point 4 months ago (0 children)

[–]bootiack -1 points0 points1 point 4 months ago

you communists always think the government forced building codes that crush competition is the answer

more government

amazing
you communists always think the government forced building codes that crush competition is the answer more government amazing
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Regardless of your opinion about the protesting workers in Madison, Wisconsin, there's one thing I that I promise you to be true...
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[–]bootiack -1 points0 points1 point 4 months ago

Fox is the only non exptreme government spending big government news network around. Why do you hate someone breaking out fo your communist bubble? Scary! Reddit is so communist I can barely stand it! Pension are paying people to not work. Cops etc get 2 million tax payer money after they retire early to sit on their asses? Screw that!! End all pensions immediatly. Productive work not sitting on your rear should be rewarded. Save some income and invest.
Fox is the only non exptreme government spending big government news network around. Why do you hate someone breaking out fo your communist bubble? Scary! Reddit is so communist I can barely stand it! Pension are paying people to not work. Cops etc get 2 million tax payer money after they retire early to sit on their asses? Screw that!! End all pensions immediatly. Productive work not sitting on your rear should be rewarded. Save some income and invest.
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Why are reddit and digg so heavily pro government sending?
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straight up
straight up
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IAMA Accenture Partner, nearly 20 years, ask me (almost) anything
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[–]bootiack -1 points0 points1 point 4 months ago

My main question is what did you do to mvoe from making 120k to 300k?

Also how can you become a partner?
My main question is what did you do to mvoe from making 120k to 300k? Also how can you become a partner?
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In the USA according to the left wing wikipedia.com DEFENSE is 20% of spending, yes DEFENSE which INVENTS EVERYTHING GUESS HOW MUCH IS WELFARE? (en.wikipedia.org)

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It is spreading. 25,000 protested In Madison, Wisconsin today and then 4000 protested in Columbus Ohio where an almost identical bill is set to pass. This is is the biggest fear our leaders of our Corporatocracy have. Average Americans awakening!
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welfare leeches sqakking n squaking as they are plucked from the veins of society
welfare leeches sqakking n squaking as they are plucked from the veins of society
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I'm sick of all the teacher bashing: How many of you had disinterested parents and had your life course significantly altered by a teacher?
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end alll union pensions, no one gets money for sitting around
end alll union pensions, no one gets money for sitting around
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A capitalist reccomends a book for you so called intellectuals
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http://mises.org/etexts/mises/og/preface.asp
http://mises.org/etexts/mises/og/preface.asp
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A capitalist reccomends a book for you so called intellectuals (mises.org)

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"Talking about “competitiveness” as a goal is fundamentally misleading... it could lead to policies based on the false idea that what’s good for corporations is good for America." -Paul Krugman
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but krugman is a fool, akeynesian, and a reagan defamation goon, showing why you can wipe your ass with a keyensian economics degree and goons like this didn't stop 1999 or 2008 depressions even though the fed is ramrod loaded with 100s of these goons
but krugman is a fool, akeynesian, and a reagan defamation goon, showing why you can wipe your ass with a keyensian economics degree and goons like this didn't stop 1999 or 2008 depressions even though the fed is ramrod loaded with 100s of these goons
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It's time we get Glenn Beck removed from the airwaves. Here is a list of the last remaining advertisers for his show. Reddit, you know what to do.
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Beck is awesome, why do you communists hate him? HE shows you overspending and trying to get rid of dissent.
Beck is awesome, why do you communists hate him? HE shows you overspending and trying to get rid of dissent.
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The For-Profit Healthcare system is the Problem. This Debate's The Wrong Debate! We Should Be Talking About Single Payer Universal Healthcare - Dennis Kucinich
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Why not free mansions and ferraris? and 10G internet?
Why not free mansions and ferraris? and 10G internet?
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netflix on a pump n dump course and makes 0$ from digital (technoninja.blogspot.com)

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I'm 22 and have been working at an infamous investment bank for 1 year. I know reddit largely dislikes the financial industry. AMA.
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how do banks get $$ from fed / gov?
how do banks get $$ from fed / gov?
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IAm the owner of a well-established IT hosting business. AMA
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how get customers? net worth? sales annual? profit? how get start capital?
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how do banks get $$ from fed / gov?
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how get capital? staff ? get custoemrs?
how get capital? staff ? get custoemrs?
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Built two companies, sold them both for millions. Bored in hotel today, so Reddit.... AMA
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vengence vote against democrats clean em all out

obama is overspending debt president

shackling enterprenurship

entrepreneurship gave us internet at coporate bell labs doing internal entrepreneurship

it can give us electric car thats real not fake

and nuclear power planst with low dirt yeild a la france

let the market bring in these solutions

dont let politics of coporate cronyism a la democrats with steel regualtions and licensing hamper innovation!

viva archlinux! and bsd

fuck redhat windows and solaris!

craig huey

http://www.craighuey.com/

Wayne Allyn Root

ROOT: Trickle Down Economics- Why Taxes Kill Everything They Touch
posted by Wayne Allyn Root on Jul 09, 2011

By Wayne Allyn Root, Former Libertarian Vice Presidential Nominee

If my income is cut, or I lose my job, how will I react? Most people would dramatically slow down their shopping and spending. What is the result of that decreased spending? It clearly hurts the economy- retailers, supermarkets, department stores, and anywhere else you’d normally spend your money is damaged. What happens to the people who work for those companies? Millions of jobs are lost and the economy crumbles.

Let’s get more specific. What if I, and millions like me, cut out our restaurant visits each week? What if we cut out a vacation? What happens if we put off buying a new car or furniture? No big deal, right? Wrong. Millions of waiters, busboys, bellmen, hotel maids, hotel security, flight attendants, airplane mechanics, executives, secretaries, salesmen, and even janitors lose their jobs. And when those people lose their jobs, what happens to their spending and those whose jobs are dependent on it?

Even education suffers. Today my younger children are home tutored. They also take swimming, ballet, Kung Fu and lacrosse lessons. What if I decided to cut back on all that spending because I had less money coming in? What would happen to those tutors and sports coaches? What would all these people that depend on me do without the income? Jobs are lost. Businesses close.

Does anyone disagree with this scenario? If people have less money to spend or invest, the economy suffers. Right?

So here is the million dollar question for progressives and assorted socialist FOOLS (Friends of Obama & Obama Lovers)…

When you raise taxes, doesn’t it have the exact same effect?

You’re taking money away from people. You are leaving them with smaller paychecks. You are damaging their quality of living. You are making it impossible to spend, or shop, or invest like they did when they had a bigger paycheck.

So how exactly is raising taxes any different than a person taking a pay cut, or losing their job, or a business owner losing a portion of his or her income? The answer, of course, is that it isn’t different.

Obama’s mantra is “Tax the rich, they can afford it.” Really? Well, if you take an extra $5,000, or $10,000, or $25,000 away from me, I can’t afford it. I’ll stop hiring those tutors and coaches- and they pay the price. I’ll cancel my vacation, or my order of new furniture, or stop eating out. I’ll stop buying clothes, and slow down my dry cleaning. And, so will over 30 million American small business owners. Take away people’s money and jobs are lost. Period. The economy spirals downward.

So please explain to me...How does raising taxes help the economy? How does it end a depression? I want FOOLS (Friends of Obama and Obama Lovers) to explain to me how taking money away from consumers and business owners creates prosperity?

Here’s the dirty little secret. Raising taxes kills jobs, kills the economy, and deepens a recession into a Great Depression.

Taxes aren’t the lowest they’ve ever been. Obama and his friends (the FOOLS) are lying to you. Taxes are the highest in history when you add up federal income taxes, state, local, property, sales taxes, social security and medicare taxes, taxes disguised as fees, and the loss of deductions. The tax burden on small business owners has never been higher. And Obama threatens to make it far higher- perhaps an unimaginable ten times higher by taking away the home mortgage deduction and removing the cap on Social Security taxes.

This is all causing fear, loathing, depression and panic among the job creators. This is causing millions of Americans to consider leaving the U.S.A for places where business owners are appreciated and rewarded, not demonized and punished. That means they will take with them millions of jobs- gone forever.

Here’s a simple lesson in this scenario. The New York Post reported recently that toll prices (ie taxes) at bridges throughout New York had increased dramatically. The result? Traffic has dropped dramatically at those bridges. Taxes ruin everything they touch.

That’s the same reason over $1 trillion dollars of wealth has transferred from New York to Texas in the past decade. Taxes ruin business. Taxes force people to either spend less or re-locate to places with lower taxes. It’s the same reason that NY, New Jersey, Illinois, Michigan and California are bleeding- losing jobs, losing taxpayers, increasing debt by the billions. These high-tax and spend states lead the nation in debt and moving vans moving out of their state. Taxes kill whatever they touch.

Let’s compare how different Presidents handled the issue of taxes.

When Reagan cut our taxes from 70% to 28% everyone had jobs, restaurants were booming, real estate was exploding, stocks were soaring, furniture was moving, auto sales were flying, it was one big party. It was morning in America.

Under tax and spend liberals like Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama the country literally came to a grinding halt. The economy stood still. Commerce just…stopped. Jobs just…disappeared. All hope…vanished.

The lesson in all this is that “Trickle Down Economics” really does exist. Unfortunately Obama is proving it works in BOTH directions. Opportunity and prosperity can trickle down. So can depression, debt and despair.

Wayne Allyn Root is a former libertarian vice presidential nominee. He now serves as chairman of the Libertarian NationalCongressional Committee. He is the best-selling author of "The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gold & Tax Cuts." His website: ROOTforAmerica.com

end all pensions and welfare immediatly

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Obama-unions-SocialSecurity/2011/07/11/id/403174

Monday, July 11, 2011

Economy Braces for $37 Billion Jolt as Some Benefits to Run Out

http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Economy-37Billion-Jolt-Benefits/2011/07/11/id/403187

MN governmetn shutdown over debt talks

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/11/us-minnesota-shutdown-idUSTRE76A7LR20110711?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Chicagoans Overwhelmingly Vote to Ban Palin, Beck & Coulter Books at Book Fair in Obama’s Home Town

http://rebelpundit.com/2011/07/11/chicagoans-overwhelmingly-vote-to-ban-palin-beck-coulter-books-at-book-fair-in-obamas-home-town/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgism

Gingrich: 'This Is the Obama Depression’

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/NewtGingrich-BarackObama-JohnBoehner-DebtLimit/2011/07/10/id/403065

But that’s in 2012. Our biggest goal for this year is to get this country straightened out, and you can’t get this country straightened out if you don

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/MitchMcConnell-BarackObama/2011/07/10/id/403058

tea party awesome

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/TeaParty-DebtLimit-JohnBoehner-RepublicanParty/2011/07/09/id/403013

go craig huey! I voted for ya

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/CaliforniaSpecialElection/2011/07/10/id/403068

(12:00:26 AM) The topic for #gobolinux is: Latest tools are Compile 1.13.3 and Scripts 2.10.2 | Stable LiveCD is 014.01 | LiveCD snapshot is available

(12:00:26 AM) The topic for #gobolinux is: Latest tools are Compile 1.13.3 and Scripts 2.10.2 | Stable LiveCD is 014.01 | LiveCD snapshot is available at http://karlsson.sytes.net/gobo/015/iso/GoboLinux-20100214.iso
(12:00:40 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-users/2011-April/008635.html
(12:00:46 AM) shevy: well I would scratch 015
(12:00:50 AM) shevy: go make a radical change
(12:00:53 AM) shevy: and even if there are glitches
(12:01:14 AM) shevy: but I think 013 was the best release
(12:01:40 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-users/2011-July/008662.html
(12:01:46 AM) shevy: wonder if my scripts could help him :)
(12:02:06 AM) shevy: oh
(12:02:09 AM) shevy: he solved it already lol
(12:02:11 AM) shevy: "Ah, the problem is solved: I should install the CoreUtils!"
(12:02:25 AM) fowl_mouth: the coreutils!
(12:02:44 AM) shevy: ok
(12:02:47 AM) fowl_mouth: i used 013
(12:02:48 AM) shevy: lucas is still active:
(12:02:49 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-devel/2011-June/004298.html
(12:03:05 AM) shevy: so both hisham and lucas are still about, but less active nowadays
(12:03:32 AM) shevy: here is hishams's message about ViewFS:
(12:03:33 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-devel/2010-November/004275.html
(12:03:45 AM) shevy: "I know I've been MIA for a good while now -- I've been mostly focused
(12:03:45 AM) shevy: on other stuff and haven't had the time to work on GoboLinux"
(12:04:11 AM) fowl_mouth: http://hisham.hm/category/en_us/
(12:04:51 AM) shevy: and he also twitters:
(12:04:52 AM) shevy: http://twitter.com/#!/hisham_hm
(12:05:17 AM) shevy: fowl_mouth, I think one reason why 015 was delayed was because of the compilings being a lot of work
(12:05:26 AM) flavius: :)
(12:05:34 AM) fowl_mouth: i would leave that entirely to the user
(12:06:09 AM) fowl_mouth: but maybe im biased towards gentoo, i like the install process
(12:06:20 AM) flavius: gentoo?
(12:06:24 AM) flavius: people still install it?
(12:06:38 AM) shevy: well a distributed gobolinux would be nice... like very gobolinux user would register somewhere
(12:06:40 AM) fowl_mouth: gentoo? i thnk so
(12:06:44 AM) shevy: *every
(12:07:00 AM) shevy: archlinux got popular lately in the last 2 years
(12:07:18 AM) fowl_mouth: what percentage of normal linux user use irc
(12:07:45 AM) shevy: hmm
(12:07:48 AM) shevy: 20%
(12:07:59 AM) shevy: but
(12:08:04 AM) fowl_mouth: and the rest, if they check the dead mailing lists or the dead forums will probably say oh thas neat, /programs, filesystem is package manager cool too bad nobody uses it anymore
(12:08:11 AM) shevy: if you include ICQ/AIM/MSN for like pidging, I think the number goes up to 80%
(12:08:15 AM) shevy: *pidgin
(12:08:24 AM) shevy: :(
(12:08:36 AM) shevy: but in 013 times
(12:08:39 AM) shevy: we did not need a forum
(12:08:56 AM) shevy: we didnt even have a wiki lol
(12:09:12 AM) shevy: I CAN REMEMBER IT ALL STILL fowl_mouth !!!
(12:09:21 AM) shevy: things were better!
(12:09:35 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(12:09:42 AM) fowl_mouth: the creators abandoned us :(
(12:10:59 AM) fowl_mouth: when RBT is stable maybe we could get a post on gobo.org and push it up to osnews/distrowatch
(12:11:51 AM) flavius: been archlnux user for 5 years
(12:11:57 AM) flavius: its best os in world bar none
(12:12:12 AM) shevy: I still have one goal ... to replace all Gobolinux scripts with RBT ... but there are some missing things and some bugs... who knows when this goal will be achieved
(12:12:33 AM) shevy: yeah on IRC many use archlinux
(12:12:36 AM) shevy: and recommend it
(12:12:44 AM) shevy: but I dont know... it seems mostly build just around pacman
(12:12:49 AM) shevy: what else is there about it? :(
(12:13:04 AM) shevy: okok in the year 2011 I am happy if things work anyway ;)
(12:13:08 AM) shevy: BUT WHERE ARE THE COOL IDEAS!
(12:13:16 AM) fowl_mouth: most valuable thing an os can have is support
(12:13:23 AM) fowl_mouth: free support*
(12:13:31 AM) fowl_mouth: yes free support for all my comrades
(12:13:46 AM) shevy: hehe
(12:14:12 AM) fowl_mouth: when am i going to have a phone that looks like a thin piece of glass
(12:14:21 AM) fowl_mouth: and iron man suits
(12:15:05 AM) fowl_mouth: my friend and i had a serious conversation about keeping someone alive in suspended animation lol
(12:15:38 AM) shevy: hmm
(12:15:54 AM) shevy: suspended animation?
(12:16:14 AM) fowl_mouth: yeah like cryogenics
(12:17:58 AM) shevy: aaaaah
(12:18:10 AM) shevy: eternal life!
(12:18:29 AM) shevy: that's also on my todo list
(12:18:31 AM) shevy: but another one
(12:18:46 AM) shevy: I need to implement and realize my ideas before I die
(12:19:27 AM) fowl_mouth: aka "finish your software" or more to it then that?
(12:21:52 AM) shevy: hehe
(12:22:24 AM) shevy: well finishing software stuff... is permanently ongoing ...
(12:22:32 AM) shevy: but it is more about the IDEAS
(12:22:45 AM) shevy: for instance why do living beings die
(12:23:01 AM) flavius: just do 1 set fo bench chin curl leg press daily
(12:23:05 AM) flavius: max intensity
(12:23:12 AM) shevy: but you won't reach 200 years that way
(12:23:18 AM) flavius: well
(12:23:21 AM) flavius: no one will
(12:23:23 AM) flavius: ;)
(12:23:27 AM) shevy: right now, true!
(12:23:33 AM) shevy: but what about in 100 years
(12:23:42 AM) flavius: in 100 years ww3 kill everyone
(12:23:43 AM) shevy: it is a problem which can have a solution
(12:23:48 AM) shevy: :(
(12:23:51 AM) shevy: may be right
(12:23:54 AM) shevy: but I am an optimist
(12:24:15 AM) shevy: and
(12:24:21 AM) shevy: I don't think a ww3 will kill everyone
(12:25:00 AM) shevy: you would need some global change for that
(12:25:09 AM) shevy: like arctic everywhere on earth
(12:28:02 AM) fowl_mouth: dont you watch movies?
(12:28:03 AM) fowl_mouth: its coming!
(12:29:58 AM) flavius: well if we switch to nuclear power==>electric cars/trains/airplanes then energy solved, esp with new low dirty output nuclear plant, then mass produce housing, develop wind+solar power
(12:30:27 AM) flavius: science solves everthing but political problem of large % of non producers
(12:30:28 AM) flavius: lame
(12:30:33 AM) flavius: pensions should all go
(12:30:37 AM) flavius: as should unemployment
(12:30:41 AM) flavius: and non science school
(12:30:46 AM) flavius: also make school all videos
(12:31:13 AM) fowl_mouth: you cant just take pensions away lol
(12:31:27 AM) fowl_mouth: at least not in america
(12:31:47 AM) shevy: not only political
(12:31:56 AM) shevy: there is a lot of money in it
(12:32:11 AM) flavius: sure u can
(12:32:15 AM) flavius: end em
(12:32:17 AM) flavius: all
(12:32:18 AM) flavius: :)
(12:32:22 AM) flavius: work or starve
(12:32:25 AM) shevy: but it is a contract
(12:32:28 AM) flavius: tax land not income
(12:32:28 AM) shevy: they paid taxes
(12:32:35 AM) flavius: geoism is very intereesting economic theory
(12:32:36 AM) shevy: they should get a refund, else you would steal from them
(12:32:42 AM) flavius: land=someone getting rent sitting on ass
(12:32:44 AM) flavius: thats no good
(12:32:47 AM) flavius: no
(12:32:55 AM) flavius: thier paycheck compensates them for work
(12:33:00 AM) flavius: pension is just bs
(12:33:04 AM) flavius: comes from tax payer
(12:33:07 AM) flavius: production
(12:33:11 AM) flavius: no produce no pay
(12:33:18 AM) shevy: ok I don't know where it is but those who established the system initially paid taxes into the system
(12:33:42 AM) shevy: you cant expect from a 60 year old to start from zero
(12:33:48 AM) shevy: in 20 years he'll be dead or crippled :P
(12:33:55 AM) shevy: or "physically impaired"
(12:34:32 AM) shevy: we should all enter politics
(12:34:34 AM) shevy: get bribes
(12:34:36 AM) shevy: get rich
(12:34:38 AM) shevy: then quit
(12:34:39 AM) shevy: :)
(12:35:06 AM) fowl_mouth: nah im too lazy for that
(12:35:52 AM) flavius: why not
(12:35:55 AM) flavius: he shoulda saved
(12:35:56 AM) flavius: :)
(12:36:09 AM) flavius: u dont jsut spend all your $$ and expect taxpayers to get soaked for u
(12:36:12 AM) flavius: fucking union fucks
(12:36:33 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(12:36:50 AM) fowl_mouth: if the whole country's work force was set up that way it would probably prosper
(12:37:10 AM) flavius: take all $$ from phd education and admins
(12:37:12 AM) flavius: fire all them
(12:37:19 AM) flavius: give lil to ease o pensions in 4 years
(12:37:22 AM) flavius: then gone
(12:37:24 AM) flavius: economy take off
(12:37:28 AM) flavius: end school
(12:37:32 AM) flavius: vid tape taachers
(12:37:35 AM) flavius: upload vids
(12:37:39 AM) flavius: then have test
(12:37:43 AM) flavius: maybe science lab
(12:37:49 AM) fowl_mouth: thats what students need
(12:37:49 AM) flavius: but honestly most labs are useless
(12:37:55 AM) flavius: going movies=phd
(12:37:57 AM) fowl_mouth: cold interaction through the eyes of a tv
(12:37:59 AM) flavius: miss a class?
(12:38:04 AM) flavius: no problem rewatch movie
(12:38:06 AM) flavius: :)
(12:38:10 AM) flavius: vid tape BEST in world
(12:38:21 AM) flavius: education=restricive research monopoly
(12:38:31 AM) flavius: allow common man to reaserach=more innovation
(12:38:36 AM) flavius: hell look at linux
(12:38:40 AM) flavius: corp n governmetn cant
(12:39:14 AM) fowl_mouth: well malaysia is rioting
(12:39:53 AM) shevy: but linux sucks too
(12:39:58 AM) shevy: all the GUI things on linux
(12:40:02 AM) shevy: the www is killing them all
(12:40:06 AM) fowl_mouth: heres your chance to mobilize a country into prosperity, maybe they'll even rename it flaviusland just for you :D
(12:40:15 AM) shevy: hahaha
(12:40:24 AM) shevy: flavius, if you get your land, can I visit you
(12:41:11 AM) flavius: sure
(12:41:21 AM) fowl_mouth: me too
(12:41:32 AM) flavius: I shall call it Sharon
(12:41:34 AM) fowl_mouth: i want to grow fields of marijuana uninterrupted
(12:41:41 AM) flavius: no problem
(12:41:53 AM) fowl_mouth: you're a saint :)
(12:42:16 AM) flavius: demigods in D&D were not quite gods, yes more like a saint
(12:42:57 AM) shevy: lol
(12:43:16 AM) fowl_mouth: haa dnd nerd
(12:43:25 AM) shevy: I was one too years ago
(12:43:41 AM) shevy: but a friend passed away ~4 years ago and the old group disbanded eventually
(12:45:03 AM) flavius: im in south bay los angeles
(12:45:13 AM) flavius: goodamn gamers all in liek valley n pasadena miles away
(12:45:19 AM) flavius: meetup charges for registration
(12:45:20 AM) flavius: LAME
(12:45:30 AM) flavius: frigging bulletin board easiest app ever
(12:45:33 AM) flavius: anyhow
(12:45:41 AM) flavius: no one gmaing her ein sothbay
(12:45:42 AM) flavius: sux
(12:45:49 AM) flavius: I bought tunnel n trols game
(12:45:51 AM) flavius: for the art
(12:45:53 AM) fowl_mouth: shevy: does ncurses gem compile for you?
(12:46:02 AM) flavius: got copy palladium fantasy rpg EPIK
(12:46:10 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(12:46:13 AM) flavius: best rpg ever d&D 3 copied it all
(12:46:18 AM) flavius: ripoff
(12:46:25 AM) flavius: all d20 was palladium system
(12:46:30 AM) flavius: too small to sue D&D
(12:47:49 AM) shevy: fowl_mouth hmm i dont really use gems but let me check
(12:48:12 AM) flavius: avoid ruby
(12:48:13 AM) shevy: is it from there ? http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=273
(12:48:13 AM) flavius: use tcl
(12:48:16 AM) flavius: and aolserver
(12:48:19 AM) shevy: lol
(12:48:19 AM) flavius: with firebird db
(12:48:29 AM) shevy: tcl syntax i HATE
(12:49:09 AM) fowl_mouth: http://rubygems.org/gems/ncurses
(12:49:27 AM) flavius: chicken scheme
(12:50:09 AM) shevy: 'ruby extconf.rb;make;make install' <-- worked for me just now
(12:50:42 AM) shevy: yes
(12:50:44 AM) shevy: also worked for me
(12:51:20 AM) shevy: http://pastie.org/2195537
(12:51:28 AM) fowl_mouth: its not linking to ncurses for me weird
(12:51:36 AM) shevy: http://pastie.org/pastes/2195537/text
(12:51:50 AM) shevy: my curses libs are: libncurses.so.5 libncurses.so.5.6 libncursesw.so.5 libncursesw.so.5.6
(12:54:40 AM) fowl_mouth: weird that you have the wide encodings its defaulted off in the recipe
(12:56:53 AM) flavius: are u using ruby or gobo for this crap?
(12:57:00 AM) flavius: I would in msot cases go with rubys own crap
(12:57:01 AM) fowl_mouth: shevy: will ya hurry up and get rbt on github already lol
(12:57:05 AM) flavius: like perl it is its own os
(12:57:14 AM) flavius: I got perl 5.14.1 compiled up on cygwin
(12:57:17 AM) flavius: hilarious
(12:57:21 AM) flavius: cpanp nice
(12:57:29 AM) flavius: cpanm better but shitty interface
(12:57:36 AM) flavius: 5x faster
(12:57:46 AM) flavius: cpanp easy query which package need upgrade
(12:57:49 AM) flavius: heh
(12:57:53 AM) flavius: i fuckign hate perl
(12:57:55 AM) flavius: love tcl
(12:57:58 AM) fowl_mouth: perl sucks bro
(12:58:00 AM) fowl_mouth: tcl sucks too
(12:58:01 AM) flavius: tcl uses tcl to install tcllib
(12:58:05 AM) flavius: now isnt that nice n logical?
(12:58:10 AM) fowl_mouth: sure
(12:58:11 AM) flavius: no ruby sucks
(12:58:17 AM) flavius: oo is the roman numerals fo computing
(12:58:27 AM) flavius: and aolserver is FAST
(12:58:33 AM) flavius: nginx limited to 1 cpu
(12:58:38 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(12:58:41 AM) flavius: aolserver threaded uses all cu automatic
(12:58:46 AM) flavius: cpu
(12:58:51 AM) fowl_mouth: you're the guy who just repeats things he reads on the internet without understanding
(12:59:12 AM) fowl_mouth: nobody uses tcl seriously anymore
(1:00:15 AM) flavius: are you kidding?
(1:00:22 AM) flavius: I use tcl and its 100x easier than perl
(1:00:29 AM) fowl_mouth: i dont doubt that
(1:00:34 AM) fowl_mouth: ive used tcl before
(1:00:34 AM) flavius: I am unix GOD
(1:00:43 AM) flavius: 85/hour consultant with own corp
(1:00:46 AM) flavius: 100k in bank
(1:00:53 AM) shevy: fowl_mouth I am still replacing HSS
(1:00:57 AM) flavius: I could write book on comparative operating systems
(1:00:57 AM) shevy: i finally have it moved to my config
(1:01:10 AM) flavius: used all bsd open and reg solaris
(1:01:13 AM) shevy: hash_directory_structure:
(1:01:13 AM) flavius: 20 linuxes
(1:01:14 AM) shevy: COOKBOOK_DIRECTORY : $COOKBOOK_DIRECTORY
(1:01:14 AM) shevy: REAL_COOKBOOK_DIRECTORY : $REAL_COOKBOOK_DIRECTORY
(1:01:24 AM) flavius: ever goto cat-v.org
(1:01:27 AM) shevy: when it has a $ it uses the ENV variable
(1:01:34 AM) shevy: others you can specify it like
(1:01:40 AM) flavius: I know why I dont agree with author on certain things
(1:01:47 AM) flavius: I had forthOs and plan9 running
(1:01:49 AM) shevy: COOKBOOK_DIRECTORY : "/System/SomeDir/"
(1:01:51 AM) flavius: lost patience with em
(1:01:58 AM) shevy: but it is not flexible enough yet
(1:02:05 AM) flavius: tcl is just AWESOME
(1:02:08 AM) fowl_mouth: whats the difference in coookbook_dir and real_cookbook_dir
(1:02:35 AM) shevy: lol
(1:02:41 AM) shevy: good question, let me try to remember
(1:02:45 AM) shevy: oh right!
(1:02:49 AM) shevy: a historic reason
(1:02:59 AM) shevy: first, i had all cookbooks in the same dir
(1:03:13 AM) fowl_mouth: meh
(1:03:21 AM) shevy: i explain
(1:03:27 AM) shevy: my COOKBOOK_DIRECTORY right now has this:
(1:03:28 AM) shevy: ALL_COOKBOOKS
(1:03:28 AM) shevy: cookbook_aliases.yml
(1:03:28 AM) shevy: cookbook_chained_programs.yml
(1:03:28 AM) shevy: COOKBOOK_CONVENTIONS
(1:03:28 AM) shevy: registered_cookbook_entries.yml
(1:03:45 AM) shevy: ALL_COOKBOOKS/ is a directory with all .yml files for the cookbooks
(1:03:51 AM) shevy: not a really clever solution
(1:03:57 AM) shevy: hence, historic :)
(1:04:10 AM) shevy: oh...
(1:04:19 AM) shevy: you will probably need cookbook_chained_programs.yml to do chained compilation
(1:04:27 AM) shevy: man
(1:04:30 AM) shevy: this is all a mess
(1:04:33 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(1:04:50 AM) shevy: i think I will move all cookbooks into RBT
(1:04:59 AM) shevy: then I can package it all together anyway
(1:05:40 AM) fowl_mouth: putting ALL_COOKBOOKS into rbt's base dir?
(1:06:09 AM) shevy: into the YAML/ directory there perhaps
(1:07:07 AM) fowl_mouth: dont do that YAML/ is for config
(1:07:33 AM) fowl_mouth: all those files that you just listed can just be put in all_cookbooks
(1:07:47 AM) shevy: yeah
(1:08:22 AM) fowl_mouth: im not sure where you want to set up those, i dont know where gobo keeps it recipe index
(1:08:22 AM) shevy: well, one thing after the other ... almost finished removing HSS and making things work again
(1:08:30 AM) shevy: let me look
(1:08:41 AM) fowl_mouth: maybe /Programs/RBT/Cookbooks
(1:08:57 AM) shevy: I think gobo keeps it at /Files/Compile/Archives
(1:09:13 AM) shevy: hmm wait... automatic recipes go into
(1:09:14 AM) flavius: wtf are cookbook entries?
(1:09:14 AM) shevy: /Files/Compile/Store
(1:09:19 AM) flavius: rby coockbook?
(1:09:27 AM) shevy: flavius just collected "recipes" into one file
(1:09:38 AM) flavius: oh how nice
(1:09:41 AM) fowl_mouth: flavius: http://code.google.com/p/ruby-build-tools/
(1:09:41 AM) flavius: does icewm compile?
(1:09:47 AM) flavius: I couldnt get it working
(1:09:50 AM) shevy: I cant check yet lol
(1:09:51 AM) flavius: last time I tried gobo
(1:09:56 AM) shevy: i broke my RBT ;P
(1:09:57 AM) flavius: also how get gobo to isntall from usb?
(1:09:58 AM) fowl_mouth: flavius: you are the king of linux
(1:10:06 AM) flavius: I know but time is limited
(1:10:14 AM) flavius: I am king of my own world sharon
(1:10:17 AM) shevy: flavius if it boots from USB then it should install...
(1:10:18 AM) fowl_mouth: i guess you take 014.01 and put it on a usb?
(1:10:21 AM) flavius: right
(1:10:27 AM) fowl_mouth: shouldnt be that hard
(1:10:37 AM) flavius: is there ez hwoto on howto get gobo usb image onto usb stock from winblows?
(1:10:42 AM) flavius: oh i know not hard
(1:10:46 AM) flavius: jsut annoying to go hack up
(1:10:50 AM) fowl_mouth: look on ubuntu's website
(1:10:54 AM) shevy: oh
(1:10:58 AM) fowl_mouth: wait you want unetbootin
(1:10:59 AM) fowl_mouth: i think
(1:10:59 AM) shevy: are you guys on 32bit or on 64bit ?
(1:11:09 AM) shevy: i am on 64
(1:11:15 AM) fowl_mouth: im on 64 on this pc
(1:11:19 AM) fowl_mouth: gobo is on 32
(1:11:32 AM) shevy: oh man
(1:11:34 AM) shevy: i miss 32 :(
(1:11:55 AM) fowl_mouth: give it 3 or 4 years lol
(1:12:11 AM) fowl_mouth: everyone will be upgrading to 128 for no_fucking_reason
(1:12:56 AM) flavius: well pc i run linux is 2g ram
(1:12:57 AM) flavius: so 32
(1:13:01 AM) flavius: :)
(1:13:27 AM) flavius: whats interesting is openbsd has file called bsd.rd
(1:13:32 AM) flavius: as long as recognize device
(1:13:43 AM) flavius: boot /dev/wa:/bsd.rd
(1:13:48 AM) flavius: and net installer starts
(1:13:51 AM) flavius: kinda cool
(1:13:56 AM) shevy: hmm
(1:14:03 AM) shevy: but a net installer ... isn't usb installer
(1:14:13 AM) shevy: usb is cool
(1:14:15 AM) flavius: well usb stick--->usb port
(1:14:18 AM) shevy: and flashdrives
(1:14:19 AM) flavius: once start installer
(1:14:22 AM) flavius: puills rest from net
(1:14:25 AM) flavius: install to big hd
(1:14:27 AM) flavius: not usb
(1:14:31 AM) flavius: reboot removing usb stick
(1:14:32 AM) fowl_mouth: flavius: im fairly certain you could use RBT and probably even gobo's tools in bsd
(1:14:33 AM) flavius: done
(1:14:43 AM) flavius: well should be a recipie
(1:14:48 AM) flavius: on your wiki
(1:14:57 AM) flavius: make life ez for explorer liek me
(1:15:01 AM) flavius: :)
(1:15:06 AM) shevy: :D
(1:15:10 AM) fowl_mouth: a recipe to do what
(1:15:15 AM) shevy: well that is the point of computer programs
(1:15:18 AM) flavius: mainly cuz damn pc I got cd is fried
(1:15:19 AM) flavius: :(
(1:15:20 AM) shevy: they should make the life of HUMAN BEINGS easier
(1:15:37 AM) flavius: and fucking bios woint see external dvd I attach
(1:15:43 AM) flavius: cocksuckign pios
(1:15:46 AM) flavius: pos
(1:15:52 AM) flavius: so im stuck using usb
(1:16:01 AM) flavius: which archlinux has nice howto
(1:16:02 AM) flavius: hmm
(1:16:06 AM) flavius: maybe ill steal archs ideas
(1:16:52 AM) fowl_mouth: unetbootin
(1:17:04 AM) fowl_mouth: theres a bin for windows
(1:17:05 AM) flavius: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#.2Anix_Method ah here we are
(1:17:12 AM) flavius: yeah that sha tfor me last month
(1:17:15 AM) flavius: arch one i know works
(1:17:18 AM) flavius: shat-
(1:17:22 AM) fowl_mouth: oh yes dd
(1:17:27 AM) flavius: oops
(1:17:30 AM) flavius: windows right below
(1:17:30 AM) fowl_mouth: lmao
(1:17:36 AM) fowl_mouth: "arch one i know works"
(1:17:44 AM) flavius: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_Guide#Microsoft_Windows_Method
(1:17:45 AM) fowl_mouth: what a fanboy
(1:17:54 AM) flavius: the fact you used word fanboy
(1:18:02 AM) flavius: means you are not an independant thinker
(1:18:05 AM) flavius: lame
(1:18:19 AM) flavius: archlinux I KNOW is best os from personal tests
(1:18:24 AM) flavius: and I can list why
(1:18:29 AM) flavius: if you care to be bored
(1:18:51 AM) flavius: let me say I smashed 10 solaris admins to bits on nexenta channel reaffirming my reasoning
(1:18:59 AM) flavius: a slimy breed
(1:19:21 AM) flavius: I know because same pc is now running arch installed FROM the usb stick sitting HERE
(1:19:22 AM) fowl_mouth: i dont much care
(1:19:27 AM) flavius: good
(1:19:30 AM) fowl_mouth: thats super cool
(1:19:39 AM) flavius: super pwoerful
(1:20:00 AM) shevy: archlinux is nice
(1:20:11 AM) shevy: I remember 3 years ago I just set up basic install of it
(1:20:18 AM) shevy: then compiled everything including xorg
(1:20:18 AM) shevy: :)
(1:20:26 AM) shevy: only goblinux was more fun
(1:20:33 AM) shevy: *gobolinux
(1:20:39 AM) flavius: gobolinux is quite interesting
(1:20:41 AM) flavius: but buggy
(1:20:43 AM) shevy: but i love the clean idea behind it... everything into one directory
(1:20:47 AM) shevy: yea
(1:20:55 AM) flavius: I was finished th epost install of compiling all the tools
(1:21:01 AM) flavius: then tried to compile icewm
(1:21:08 AM) flavius: boom ended up stuck
(1:21:23 AM) flavius: gobo is one os I find curiously intereting
(1:21:26 AM) flavius: after a long time
(1:21:31 AM) shevy: hmm
(1:21:36 AM) shevy: did you try to compile something else?
(1:21:37 AM) flavius: netbsd archlinux and openbsd being the others
(1:21:46 AM) flavius: I think I went with jwm
(1:21:51 AM) flavius: which is very close
(1:22:00 AM) flavius: but not quite as nice as icewm
(1:22:07 AM) shevy: I never got into the *BSD
(1:22:13 AM) flavius: I asked forth progrmmers to make a iceWM in 1./25th code to show off forth
(1:22:17 AM) flavius: no one stepped up
(1:22:29 AM) flavius: netbsd I think is most under rated os ever
(1:22:40 AM) flavius: esp since thier new sceduler apparently outperforms freebsd
(1:23:47 AM) shevy: hmm
(1:23:53 AM) shevy: I don't know with all the BSDs
(1:24:05 AM) shevy: oh
(1:24:08 AM) shevy: except PC-BSD
(1:24:21 AM) shevy: but that is FreeBSD actually
(1:25:02 AM) shevy: http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PBI_Manager#What_is_the_PBI_format.3F
(1:25:41 AM) shevy: "The PBI format tries to correct the underlying flaw in this system for desktop computing. Rather than making every application a part of your base system, PBI's are self-contained, including their own dependent library tree and related data. "
(1:25:44 AM) shevy: ^^^ LIKE GOBOLINUX!!!
(1:26:26 AM) shevy: unfortunately
(1:26:29 AM) shevy: they still retain the FHS
(1:26:35 AM) fowl_mouth: how?
(1:26:37 AM) shevy: /usr/pbi - Where PBIs are installed on the system
(1:26:43 AM) shevy: /var/db/pbi - Data files related to installed PBIs, Repositories and more.
(1:26:45 AM) shevy: well gobo does too
(1:26:49 AM) shevy: but uses gobohide to hide it
(1:26:59 AM) fowl_mouth: how do they do it though
(1:27:04 AM) shevy: /usr/local/etc/pbi.conf - location of the PBI Manager configuration file
(1:27:12 AM) shevy: well they split things into all these odd paths
(1:27:15 AM) fowl_mouth: they either symlink or copy things to /usr/local then?
(1:27:24 AM) shevy: ah you mean how they make the PBI work
(1:27:31 AM) shevy: good question, I don't know actually :(
(1:27:53 AM) shevy: right now... I say ... via magic
(1:28:06 AM) fowl_mouth: if it just linked things into /usr/local and let /bin etc alone i can see it working i guess
(1:28:29 AM) shevy: you are right hmm
(1:28:32 AM) shevy: I am going to ask
(1:28:53 AM) fowl_mouth: if BSD follows FHS then gobo/rbt should run fine on it
(1:29:06 AM) fowl_mouth: maybe we should switch to bsd :p
(1:29:33 AM) shevy: hehehe
(1:29:41 AM) shevy: well
(1:29:45 AM) shevy: at least PC-BSD has the right ideas
(1:29:56 AM) flavius: fuck users
(1:30:04 AM) flavius: basic desktop liek ice
(1:30:13 AM) flavius: let em open command lien and type app& [enter]
(1:30:16 AM) flavius: then use app
(1:30:25 AM) flavius: app desktop integation total waste of time
(1:30:58 AM) flavius: show users can have file to open favorite 10 apps that way with one enter, and they shut up
(1:30:59 AM) fowl_mouth: your ideology only works to serve you
(1:31:11 AM) flavius: end all pensions too
(1:31:21 AM) fowl_mouth: the majority of people on the internet, computers, phones, are not developers
(1:31:30 AM) flavius: once user has pidgin chat up and firefox on nice basic desktop done dada
(1:31:32 AM) flavius: they fine
(1:31:33 AM) flavius: :)
(1:31:34 AM) fowl_mouth: most people just go to youtube and read their emails and facebook
(1:31:40 AM) flavius: yep
(1:31:42 AM) flavius: exactly
(1:31:45 AM) flavius: broswer is 99%
(1:31:52 AM) flavius: hek could skip pidgin and use meebo.com
(1:31:58 AM) flavius: but pidgin si so nice
(1:33:07 AM) shevy: well
(1:33:16 AM) shevy: the browser really became very important...
(1:33:27 AM) shevy: I recently switched my 8 years old email to gmail too ...
(1:33:54 AM) shevy: and people do crazy things with javascript
(1:34:28 AM) fowl_mouth: linux.js
(1:37:08 AM) shevy: yeah
(1:37:19 AM) shevy: http://bellard.org/jslinux/
(1:37:21 AM) shevy: damn crazy
(1:38:49 AM) flavius: gmail barf
(1:38:57 AM) flavius: fastmail.fm
(1:39:01 AM) flavius: is where its at
(1:39:26 AM) flavius: I recently learned basic html
(1:39:27 AM) flavius: wow
(1:39:34 AM) flavius: all blog shit throw away
(1:39:39 AM) flavius: includiong wordpress garbage
(1:39:46 AM) flavius: just use 3 tags
(1:39:58 AM) flavius: img a and pre
(1:40:02 AM) flavius: done
(1:40:20 AM) shevy: lol
(1:40:30 AM) shevy: hmm
(1:40:38 AM) shevy: i currently let ruby generate the html for me
(1:41:03 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(1:42:46 AM) flavius: sure I let bash do same for me
(1:42:51 AM) flavius: if I need to at all
(1:42:58 AM) flavius: I mean 3 tags so dirt simple
(1:43:06 AM) flavius: and pages so fast to laod when that simple
(1:43:08 AM) flavius: just awesome
(1:43:25 AM) flavius: I really dont need even bash for most pages
(1:43:42 AM) flavius: sounds like youoverdoing it if need ruby to gen pages
(1:43:59 AM) flavius: unless you actually have file upload or dynamic content
(1:44:03 AM) shevy: but I would never write html or xml
(1:44:04 AM) flavius: I was talking just about blog
(1:44:09 AM) flavius: xml yuck
(1:44:12 AM) flavius: only tools use xml
(1:44:33 AM) shevy: and somewhere I need to store the data
(1:49:18 AM) flavius: I think a lot fo web designers forget that a web page should be 1 page
(1:49:27 AM) flavius: they have all these scrolling pages which suck
(1:49:33 AM) flavius: you should jump from page to page
(1:49:38 AM) flavius: and page should be light as feather
(1:49:42 AM) flavius: so quick loading
(1:49:44 AM) flavius: :)
(1:50:11 AM) shevy: but they want to put more and more info into their page
(1:50:15 AM) shevy: so the page get bigger
(1:50:18 AM) shevy: as the years pass by!
(1:51:51 AM) shevy: no reply from #pcbsd
(1:51:52 AM) shevy: :(
(1:51:58 AM) shevy: hey flavius
(1:52:02 AM) shevy: don't you want to install pcbsd ;)
(1:53:18 AM) fowl_mouth: i might try it tomorrow in virtual box
(1:53:35 AM) fowl_mouth: i want to install dosbox too so i can play arena
(1:55:45 AM) flavius: pcbsd no no
(1:55:50 AM) flavius: useless abstractions over bsd
(1:55:56 AM) flavius: use freebsd 8.2 with icewm
(1:56:04 AM) flavius: or netbsd dragonfly open etc
(1:56:07 AM) flavius: with icewm
(1:56:21 AM) flavius: I have archlinux now with icewm pidgin and vlc
(1:56:23 AM) flavius: very nice
(1:56:30 AM) flavius: netbsd lame no vlc in binary
(1:56:33 AM) flavius: pkgsrc
(1:56:35 AM) flavius: bleh
(1:56:38 AM) flavius: on i386 no less
(1:56:41 AM) flavius: get better
(1:56:47 AM) flavius: but netbsd os is very powerful
(1:56:55 AM) flavius: yeah
(1:56:57 AM) flavius: bad trend
(1:57:04 AM) flavius: html=best 1page fo info with links to next
(1:57:06 AM) flavius: much better
(2:00:36 AM) flavius: gobo be fun
(2:00:46 AM) flavius: scared apps wont install tho :(
(2:04:17 AM) flavius: like postgresql for example
(2:04:19 AM) flavius: hmm
(2:04:21 AM) flavius: 9.1
(2:04:41 AM) flavius: er 9.0.4
(2:04:45 AM) shevy: ok going to bed now, I should release a better RBT when I wake up. laters.
(2:52:58 AM) t_s_o [~tso@248.80-203-120.nextgentel.com] entered the room.
(3:31:46 AM) flavius: :)
(3:31:54 AM) flavius: 1 file all recipies?
(3:31:57 AM) flavius: good man
(4:21:21 AM) shevy left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds).
(4:33:58 AM) shevy [~shevy@178-190-194-144.adsl.highway.telekom.at] entered the room.

Whatever possesses George Lukas et al. to film such stories as "Phantom Menace," when there is material out there just begging to be made into rip-roa

5.0 out of 5 stars superb, satisfying, want more, June 14, 1999
By A Customer
This review is from: The strayed sheep of Charun (Hardcover)
Roberts writes with humor and grace; the charm of his SPQR series is evident in "Strayed Sheep" as well; instead of ancient Rome, however, it takes place far in the future and at the fringes of the known universe. Whatever possesses George Lukas et al. to film such stories as "Phantom Menace," when there is material out there just begging to be made into rip-roaring movies, like "The Strayed Sheep of Charun"? Much more visual and thrilling than Starship Troopers, this book deserves to be filmed and, of course, widely read. Now if only it were in print -- and where to find "Cestus Dei"?

kill geithner, sak goldman saks

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=388424.0

fixing world economy and esposing D&D and free software

(12:00:26 AM) The topic for #gobolinux is: Latest tools are Compile 1.13.3 and Scripts 2.10.2 | Stable LiveCD is 014.01 | LiveCD snapshot is available at http://karlsson.sytes.net/gobo/015/iso/GoboLinux-20100214.iso
(12:00:40 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-users/2011-April/008635.html
(12:00:46 AM) shevy: well I would scratch 015
(12:00:50 AM) shevy: go make a radical change
(12:00:53 AM) shevy: and even if there are glitches
(12:01:14 AM) shevy: but I think 013 was the best release
(12:01:40 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-users/2011-July/008662.html
(12:01:46 AM) shevy: wonder if my scripts could help him :)
(12:02:06 AM) shevy: oh
(12:02:09 AM) shevy: he solved it already lol
(12:02:11 AM) shevy: "Ah, the problem is solved: I should install the CoreUtils!"
(12:02:25 AM) fowl_mouth: the coreutils!
(12:02:44 AM) shevy: ok
(12:02:47 AM) fowl_mouth: i used 013
(12:02:48 AM) shevy: lucas is still active:
(12:02:49 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-devel/2011-June/004298.html
(12:03:05 AM) shevy: so both hisham and lucas are still about, but less active nowadays
(12:03:32 AM) shevy: here is hishams's message about ViewFS:
(12:03:33 AM) shevy: http://lists.gobolinux.org/pipermail/gobolinux-devel/2010-November/004275.html
(12:03:45 AM) shevy: "I know I've been MIA for a good while now -- I've been mostly focused
(12:03:45 AM) shevy: on other stuff and haven't had the time to work on GoboLinux"
(12:04:11 AM) fowl_mouth: http://hisham.hm/category/en_us/
(12:04:51 AM) shevy: and he also twitters:
(12:04:52 AM) shevy: http://twitter.com/#!/hisham_hm
(12:05:17 AM) shevy: fowl_mouth, I think one reason why 015 was delayed was because of the compilings being a lot of work
(12:05:26 AM) octon: :)
(12:05:34 AM) fowl_mouth: i would leave that entirely to the user
(12:06:09 AM) fowl_mouth: but maybe im biased towards gentoo, i like the install process
(12:06:20 AM) octon: gentoo?
(12:06:24 AM) octon: people still install it?
(12:06:38 AM) shevy: well a distributed gobolinux would be nice... like very gobolinux user would register somewhere
(12:06:40 AM) fowl_mouth: gentoo? i thnk so
(12:06:44 AM) shevy: *every
(12:07:00 AM) shevy: archlinux got popular lately in the last 2 years
(12:07:18 AM) fowl_mouth: what percentage of normal linux user use irc
(12:07:45 AM) shevy: hmm
(12:07:48 AM) shevy: 20%
(12:07:59 AM) shevy: but
(12:08:04 AM) fowl_mouth: and the rest, if they check the dead mailing lists or the dead forums will probably say oh thas neat, /programs, filesystem is package manager cool too bad nobody uses it anymore
(12:08:11 AM) shevy: if you include ICQ/AIM/MSN for like pidging, I think the number goes up to 80%
(12:08:15 AM) shevy: *pidgin
(12:08:24 AM) shevy: :(
(12:08:36 AM) shevy: but in 013 times
(12:08:39 AM) shevy: we did not need a forum
(12:08:56 AM) shevy: we didnt even have a wiki lol
(12:09:12 AM) shevy: I CAN REMEMBER IT ALL STILL fowl_mouth !!!
(12:09:21 AM) shevy: things were better!
(12:09:35 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(12:09:42 AM) fowl_mouth: the creators abandoned us :(
(12:10:59 AM) fowl_mouth: when RBT is stable maybe we could get a post on gobo.org and push it up to osnews/distrowatch
(12:11:51 AM) octon: been archlnux user for 5 years
(12:11:57 AM) octon: its best os in world bar none
(12:12:12 AM) shevy: I still have one goal ... to replace all Gobolinux scripts with RBT ... but there are some missing things and some bugs... who knows when this goal will be achieved
(12:12:33 AM) shevy: yeah on IRC many use archlinux
(12:12:36 AM) shevy: and recommend it
(12:12:44 AM) shevy: but I dont know... it seems mostly build just around pacman
(12:12:49 AM) shevy: what else is there about it? :(
(12:13:04 AM) shevy: okok in the year 2011 I am happy if things work anyway ;)
(12:13:08 AM) shevy: BUT WHERE ARE THE COOL IDEAS!
(12:13:16 AM) fowl_mouth: most valuable thing an os can have is support
(12:13:23 AM) fowl_mouth: free support*
(12:13:31 AM) fowl_mouth: yes free support for all my comrades
(12:13:46 AM) shevy: hehe
(12:14:12 AM) fowl_mouth: when am i going to have a phone that looks like a thin piece of glass
(12:14:21 AM) fowl_mouth: and iron man suits
(12:15:05 AM) fowl_mouth: my friend and i had a serious conversation about keeping someone alive in suspended animation lol
(12:15:38 AM) shevy: hmm
(12:15:54 AM) shevy: suspended animation?
(12:16:14 AM) fowl_mouth: yeah like cryogenics
(12:17:58 AM) shevy: aaaaah
(12:18:10 AM) shevy: eternal life!
(12:18:29 AM) shevy: that's also on my todo list
(12:18:31 AM) shevy: but another one
(12:18:46 AM) shevy: I need to implement and realize my ideas before I die
(12:19:27 AM) fowl_mouth: aka "finish your software" or more to it then that?
(12:21:52 AM) shevy: hehe
(12:22:24 AM) shevy: well finishing software stuff... is permanently ongoing ...
(12:22:32 AM) shevy: but it is more about the IDEAS
(12:22:45 AM) shevy: for instance why do living beings die
(12:23:01 AM) octon: just do 1 set fo bench chin curl leg press daily
(12:23:05 AM) octon: max intensity
(12:23:12 AM) shevy: but you won't reach 200 years that way
(12:23:18 AM) octon: well
(12:23:21 AM) octon: no one will
(12:23:23 AM) octon: ;)
(12:23:27 AM) shevy: right now, true!
(12:23:33 AM) shevy: but what about in 100 years
(12:23:42 AM) octon: in 100 years ww3 kill everyone
(12:23:43 AM) shevy: it is a problem which can have a solution
(12:23:48 AM) shevy: :(
(12:23:51 AM) shevy: may be right
(12:23:54 AM) shevy: but I am an optimist
(12:24:15 AM) shevy: and
(12:24:21 AM) shevy: I don't think a ww3 will kill everyone
(12:25:00 AM) shevy: you would need some global change for that
(12:25:09 AM) shevy: like arctic everywhere on earth
(12:28:02 AM) fowl_mouth: dont you watch movies?
(12:28:03 AM) fowl_mouth: its coming!
(12:29:58 AM) octon: well if we switch to nuclear power==>electric cars/trains/airplanes then energy solved, esp with new low dirty output nuclear plant, then mass produce housing, develop wind+solar power
(12:30:27 AM) octon: science solves everthing but political problem of large % of non producers
(12:30:28 AM) octon: lame
(12:30:33 AM) octon: pensions should all go
(12:30:37 AM) octon: as should unemployment
(12:30:41 AM) octon: and non science school
(12:30:46 AM) octon: also make school all videos
(12:31:13 AM) fowl_mouth: you cant just take pensions away lol
(12:31:27 AM) fowl_mouth: at least not in america
(12:31:47 AM) shevy: not only political
(12:31:56 AM) shevy: there is a lot of money in it
(12:32:11 AM) octon: sure u can
(12:32:15 AM) octon: end em
(12:32:17 AM) octon: all
(12:32:18 AM) octon: :)
(12:32:22 AM) octon: work or starve
(12:32:25 AM) shevy: but it is a contract
(12:32:28 AM) octon: tax land not income
(12:32:28 AM) shevy: they paid taxes
(12:32:35 AM) octon: geoism is very intereesting economic theory
(12:32:36 AM) shevy: they should get a refund, else you would steal from them
(12:32:42 AM) octon: land=someone getting rent sitting on ass
(12:32:44 AM) octon: thats no good
(12:32:47 AM) octon: no
(12:32:55 AM) octon: thier paycheck compensates them for work
(12:33:00 AM) octon: pension is just bs
(12:33:04 AM) octon: comes from tax payer
(12:33:07 AM) octon: production
(12:33:11 AM) octon: no produce no pay
(12:33:18 AM) shevy: ok I don't know where it is but those who established the system initially paid taxes into the system
(12:33:42 AM) shevy: you cant expect from a 60 year old to start from zero
(12:33:48 AM) shevy: in 20 years he'll be dead or crippled :P
(12:33:55 AM) shevy: or "physically impaired"
(12:34:32 AM) shevy: we should all enter politics
(12:34:34 AM) shevy: get bribes
(12:34:36 AM) shevy: get rich
(12:34:38 AM) shevy: then quit
(12:34:39 AM) shevy: :)
(12:35:06 AM) fowl_mouth: nah im too lazy for that
(12:35:52 AM) octon: why not
(12:35:55 AM) octon: he shoulda saved
(12:35:56 AM) octon: :)
(12:36:09 AM) octon: u dont jsut spend all your $$ and expect taxpayers to get soaked for u
(12:36:12 AM) octon: fucking union fucks
(12:36:33 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(12:36:50 AM) fowl_mouth: if the whole country's work force was set up that way it would probably prosper
(12:37:10 AM) octon: take all $$ from phd education and admins
(12:37:12 AM) octon: fire all them
(12:37:19 AM) octon: give lil to ease o pensions in 4 years
(12:37:22 AM) octon: then gone
(12:37:24 AM) octon: economy take off
(12:37:28 AM) octon: end school
(12:37:32 AM) octon: vid tape taachers
(12:37:35 AM) octon: upload vids
(12:37:39 AM) octon: then have test
(12:37:43 AM) octon: maybe science lab
(12:37:49 AM) fowl_mouth: thats what students need
(12:37:49 AM) octon: but honestly most labs are useless
(12:37:55 AM) octon: going movies=phd
(12:37:57 AM) fowl_mouth: cold interaction through the eyes of a tv
(12:37:59 AM) octon: miss a class?
(12:38:04 AM) octon: no problem rewatch movie
(12:38:06 AM) octon: :)
(12:38:10 AM) octon: vid tape BEST in world
(12:38:21 AM) octon: education=restricive research monopoly
(12:38:31 AM) octon: allow common man to reaserach=more innovation
(12:38:36 AM) octon: hell look at linux
(12:38:40 AM) octon: corp n governmetn cant
(12:39:14 AM) fowl_mouth: well malaysia is rioting
(12:39:53 AM) shevy: but linux sucks too
(12:39:58 AM) shevy: all the GUI things on linux
(12:40:02 AM) shevy: the www is killing them all
(12:40:06 AM) fowl_mouth: heres your chance to mobilize a country into prosperity, maybe they'll even rename it octonland just for you :D
(12:40:15 AM) shevy: hahaha
(12:40:24 AM) shevy: octon, if you get your land, can I visit you
(12:41:11 AM) octon: sure
(12:41:21 AM) fowl_mouth: me too
(12:41:32 AM) octon: I shall call it Sharon
(12:41:34 AM) fowl_mouth: i want to grow fields of marijuana uninterrupted
(12:41:41 AM) octon: no problem
(12:41:53 AM) fowl_mouth: you're a saint :)
(12:42:16 AM) octon: demigods in D&D were not quite gods, yes more like a saint
(12:42:57 AM) shevy: lol
(12:43:16 AM) fowl_mouth: haa dnd nerd
(12:43:25 AM) shevy: I was one too years ago
(12:43:41 AM) shevy: but a friend passed away ~4 years ago and the old group disbanded eventually
(12:45:03 AM) octon: im in south bay los angeles
(12:45:13 AM) octon: goodamn gamers all in liek valley n pasadena miles away
(12:45:19 AM) octon: meetup charges for registration
(12:45:20 AM) octon: LAME
(12:45:30 AM) octon: frigging bulletin board easiest app ever
(12:45:33 AM) octon: anyhow
(12:45:41 AM) octon: no one gmaing her ein sothbay
(12:45:42 AM) octon: sux
(12:45:49 AM) octon: I bought tunnel n trols game
(12:45:51 AM) octon: for the art
(12:45:53 AM) fowl_mouth: shevy: does ncurses gem compile for you?
(12:46:02 AM) octon: got copy palladium fantasy rpg EPIK
(12:46:10 AM) fowl_mouth: lol
(12:46:13 AM) octon: best rpg ever d&D 3 copied it all
(12:46:18 AM) octon: ripoff
(12:46:25 AM) octon: all d20 was palladium system
(12:46:30 AM) octon: too small to sue D&D