[04:01] ? [04:01] accruance? [04:01] 10k what? [04:01] all pensions gone [04:01] gone [04:01] no paying anyone to sit on ass [04:01] gavino: and the privat ones are no support, bad quality ? [04:02] gavino, but it was their own money they paid into it in the first place so they would have to get their money back [04:02] copetition brings quality [04:02] no [04:02] they dont pay 100% on at all [04:02] they get massive stolen tax money [04:02] stolen?!? what is stolen from where [04:02] if you paid tax with your money, it used to be your money! [04:03] stolen from ME [04:03] but I see you want to steal only 10% [04:03] ok but you pay 1 and get 100 [04:03] thats stealing 99 [04:03] lol [04:03] from where [04:03] from the tax payer [04:03] if someone ibvests in streets etc... they reduce their income and spare lotof taxes [04:03] you know that a cop retires and get equivalent of 2million cash? [04:03] he never paid in 2million [04:03] paid in abotu 20,000 [04:04] rest comes from soaking tax payer [04:04] eh your cops must be rich [04:04] and in mos cases they also bet bonus of taxes from thegoverment [04:04] well when you pay someone 80% of thier salary [04:04] until they die [04:04] aaah [04:04] and they retire early at say 52 [04:04] you mean in total? [04:04] do the math [04:04] with interest [04:04] yesssss [04:04] I can't believe you pay every cop 2 million dollars at the time when he retires [04:04] Its like rik perry said a ponzi scheme [04:04] equivalent fo 2m cash yes [04:04] they get pension [04:05] pay+healthcare [04:05] when doing nothing [04:05] but a pension works over time, not instantly [04:05] watching tv [04:05] right [04:05] equivalent means calculated total [04:05] yes [04:05] everyone would prefer instant cash:) [04:05] oh of cousre [04:05] Competition brings only at the beginning - abit of more quality [04:05] but politicians liek obama cant scam when cash is needed [04:05] they need to promise on in 10 years the cuts i amde wil save 450million [04:06] there is no cash anymore really it is all deficit [04:06] so let me spend 450million now [04:06] even if i gota borrow it [04:06] lol [04:06] but after short time... the costs ar ethe problem and someone competetes with less quality and less costs [04:06] lol [04:06] yessss [04:06] costs [04:06] exactly [04:06] cmon [04:06] only in government can you get somehow paying a guy to do nothing [04:06] the world economy is a ponzi scheme [04:06] not totally [04:06] governmetn ponizs [04:07] the problem is the huge excess value [04:07] that was ponzi http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Ponzi.jpg [04:07] created by mass production [04:07] was huge enuf [04:07] picture from 1910 more than 100 years ago :) [04:07] to keep everyone wealthy for a while [04:07] but [04:07] eh [04:07] now the governemtn has gone 100x as further in terms of stealing that excess value [04:07] everyone ... [04:07] so exteremly far [04:07] in the case of obama [04:07] that the debt is equal to our output [04:08] its just crazy [04:08] aha and it was better under Bush jr. ? [04:08] as lon as people don't understand, that the system produces loosers cause of % and % of %... witch is in total larger then the market-grow... things are getting worse [04:08] much mich beter [04:08] much much much much better [04:08] look at deficit [04:08] 16T [04:08] I like gavino :) [04:08] under bush 6T [04:08] +10T [04:08] in 2 years [04:08] wow [04:08] insane!!1 [04:08] obama bailouts [04:08] at least mccain woulda let some of those fuckers fail [04:08] ron paul woulda [04:08] the problem is not bush or obama.... it simple math, we are in a state of exponentional grow of cash [04:08] obama biggest failure of usa [04:09] don't think it was that much much much much better under Bush jr. either http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/jun2005/usde-j21.shtml ;) [04:09] ron paul will never win [04:09] but they 2 dumbheads could stop wars [04:09] no problem is obama and he will be 1 termer [04:09] bush was a ok [04:09] remember [04:09] the fed caused 2008 bubble [04:09] and government [04:09] ok who will win the coming election gavino ? [04:09] I predict mitt romney will be next president [04:09] or could have [04:09] and that speeded things LITTLE bit up [04:09] possibly [04:10] government should end fed at minimum [04:10] I am not even comforatable will governemtn issuing bonds [04:10] or city bonds lcaoly [04:10] governemtn should have to pay for its spending [04:10] in tax money [04:10] and show voters [04:10] hey u want this [04:10] u gota pay bitches [04:11] imagine if obama had raside taxes on each of 300m people in USA by 33,000 [04:11] ok but you all pay it from 10% tax right? [04:11] he did its 10T deficit [04:11] !! [04:11] best part is debt now grow with interest [04:11] wow [04:11] can u imagine having 33,000 bill from obama government?

[04:01] ? [04:01] accruance? [04:01] 10k what? [04:01] all pensions gone [04:01] gone [04:01] no paying anyone to sit on ass [04:01] gavino: and the privat ones are no support, bad quality ? [04:02] gavino, but it was their own money they paid into it in the first place so they would have to get their money back [04:02] copetition brings quality [04:02] no [04:02] they dont pay 100% on at all [04:02] they get massive stolen tax money [04:02] stolen?!? what is stolen from where [04:02] if you paid tax with your money, it used to be your money! [04:03] stolen from ME [04:03] but I see you want to steal only 10% [04:03] ok but you pay 1 and get 100 [04:03] thats stealing 99 [04:03] lol [04:03] from where [04:03] from the tax payer [04:03] if someone ibvests in streets etc... they reduce their income and spare lotof taxes [04:03] you know that a cop retires and get equivalent of 2million cash? [04:03] he never paid in 2million [04:03] paid in abotu 20,000 [04:04] rest comes from soaking tax payer [04:04] eh your cops must be rich [04:04] and in mos cases they also bet bonus of taxes from thegoverment [04:04] well when you pay someone 80% of thier salary [04:04] until they die [04:04] aaah [04:04] and they retire early at say 52 [04:04] you mean in total? [04:04] do the math [04:04] with interest [04:04] yesssss [04:04] I can't believe you pay every cop 2 million dollars at the time when he retires [04:04] Its like rik perry said a ponzi scheme [04:04] equivalent fo 2m cash yes [04:04] they get pension [04:05] pay+healthcare [04:05] when doing nothing [04:05] but a pension works over time, not instantly [04:05] watching tv [04:05] right [04:05] equivalent means calculated total [04:05] yes [04:05] everyone would prefer instant cash:) [04:05] oh of cousre [04:05] Competition brings only at the beginning - abit of more quality [04:05] but politicians liek obama cant scam when cash is needed [04:05] they need to promise on in 10 years the cuts i amde wil save 450million [04:06] there is no cash anymore really it is all deficit [04:06] so let me spend 450million now [04:06] even if i gota borrow it [04:06] lol [04:06] but after short time... the costs ar ethe problem and someone competetes with less quality and less costs [04:06] lol [04:06] yessss [04:06] costs [04:06] exactly [04:06] cmon [04:06] only in government can you get somehow paying a guy to do nothing [04:06] the world economy is a ponzi scheme [04:06] not totally [04:06] governmetn ponizs [04:07] the problem is the huge excess value [04:07] that was ponzi http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Ponzi.jpg [04:07] created by mass production [04:07] was huge enuf [04:07] picture from 1910 more than 100 years ago :) [04:07] to keep everyone wealthy for a while [04:07] but [04:07] eh [04:07] now the governemtn has gone 100x as further in terms of stealing that excess value [04:07] everyone ... [04:07] so exteremly far [04:07] in the case of obama [04:07] that the debt is equal to our output [04:08] its just crazy [04:08] aha and it was better under Bush jr. ? [04:08] as lon as people don't understand, that the system produces loosers cause of % and % of %... witch is in total larger then the market-grow... things are getting worse [04:08] much mich beter [04:08] much much much much better [04:08] look at deficit [04:08] 16T [04:08] I like gavino :) [04:08] under bush 6T [04:08] +10T [04:08] in 2 years [04:08] wow [04:08] insane!!1 [04:08] obama bailouts [04:08] at least mccain woulda let some of those fuckers fail [04:08] ron paul woulda [04:08] the problem is not bush or obama.... it simple math, we are in a state of exponentional grow of cash [04:08] obama biggest failure of usa [04:09] don't think it was that much much much much better under Bush jr. either http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/jun2005/usde-j21.shtml ;) [04:09] ron paul will never win [04:09] but they 2 dumbheads could stop wars [04:09] no problem is obama and he will be 1 termer [04:09] bush was a ok [04:09] remember [04:09] the fed caused 2008 bubble [04:09] and government [04:09] ok who will win the coming election gavino ? [04:09] I predict mitt romney will be next president [04:09] or could have [04:09] and that speeded things LITTLE bit up [04:09] possibly [04:10] government should end fed at minimum [04:10] I am not even comforatable will governemtn issuing bonds [04:10] or city bonds lcaoly [04:10] governemtn should have to pay for its spending [04:10] in tax money [04:10] and show voters [04:10] hey u want this [04:10] u gota pay bitches [04:11] imagine if obama had raside taxes on each of 300m people in USA by 33,000 [04:11] ok but you all pay it from 10% tax right? [04:11] he did its 10T deficit [04:11] !! [04:11] best part is debt now grow with interest [04:11] wow [04:11] can u imagine having 33,000 bill from obama government?