Tuesday, January 19, 2010

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(11:13:53 PM) pukey: Hello shemale-magic.
(11:13:53 PM) haitian [n=haiti@cpe-24-28-83-226.austin.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(11:13:55 PM) shemale-magic: hi
(11:13:56 PM) eldragon: US is doing BUSINESSES militarly!
(11:14:00 PM) shemale-magic: brown guna win in MA
(11:14:10 PM) shemale-magic: get rida democrat 60 vote majority in senate
(11:14:11 PM) pukey: Is that the shemale candidate?
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(11:14:25 PM) shemale-magic: yes
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(11:14:49 PM) pukey: Well, I would be pissed off about democrats losing control.
(11:14:54 PM) pukey: But they aren't any different.
(11:14:56 PM) pukey: It just doesn't matter.
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(11:15:33 PM) HisMajesty: trust me, putting an airfield on navasse isn't going to affect cuba. I have that entire thing on a different plan and way of doing thing
(11:15:38 PM) ThrobbingPython: its amazing how much ass dell sux
(11:16:20 PM) pukey: Maybe the Democrats will realize how screwed they are going to be come November and recognize that they can't get away with lying about everything.
(11:16:25 PM) eldragon: what about the Federation of the Caribean Islands ?
(11:16:31 PM) pukey: Or, maybe they just don't care either.
(11:16:53 PM) sevenless: "US troops may soon find themselves patrolling the streets in what will look like a full-scale military operation."
(11:16:56 PM) sevenless: Goddamn
(11:17:05 PM) pukey: Given Obama's first year, I suspect it is the latter.
(11:17:07 PM) sevenless: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8466973.stm
(11:17:08 PM) subtitle: [ BBC News - US begins airdrops of food and water into Haiti ]
(11:17:09 PM) eldragon: US is doing the WAR on Haiti
(11:17:14 PM) sevenless: I agree
(11:17:39 PM) sevenless: France's cooperation minister, Alain Joyandet, had suggested on Monday that the US was "occupying" Haiti and urged the UN to "clarify" the US role.
(11:18:11 PM) pukey: I wish we had a cooperation minister.
(11:18:18 PM) HisMajesty: they're going to work it out at the meeting in canda.
(11:18:21 PM) HisMajesty: canada.
(11:18:37 PM) HisMajesty: meaning the question is move to that.
(11:18:47 PM) eldragon: Haiti == Hawai? You're stupid joe.
(11:18:57 PM) Makinami_Mari: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/18/0738253/Police-In-Britain-Arrest-Man-For-Bomb-Threat-Joke-On-Twitter
(11:18:59 PM) subtitle: [ Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | Police In Britain Arrest Man For Bomb-Threat Joke On Twitter ]
(11:19:15 PM) pukey: haha. culture of fear.
(11:19:21 PM) pukey: Way to go UK.
(11:19:26 PM) Makinami_Mari: o/ o/ o/ HAIL WELFARISM o/ o/ o/
(11:19:33 PM) haitian: us military needs to shoot all the haitians who are bad
(11:19:34 PM) sevenless: Doctors Without Borders said bluntly: "There is little sign of significant aid distribution."
(11:19:42 PM) eldragon: US is doing the WAR on Haiti
(11:19:58 PM) haitian: US has come to finish the job of the earthquale
(11:20:05 PM) haitian: quake erh
(11:20:16 PM) eldragon: against the earthquakers
(11:20:19 PM) sevenless: Israel used the whole thing as a PR stunt. They even sent a camera crew to film it
(11:20:24 PM) sevenless: Fuckin' israelis
(11:20:50 PM) CapitalistPig: do you ever do anything other than jew-rage, sevenaids?
(11:20:53 PM) HisMajesty: cuba's demise comes at the hand of a code name: Varnish
(11:21:08 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: I haven't mentioned the word jew once.
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(11:21:14 PM) CapitalistPig: oh pls
(11:21:17 PM) eldragon: Haitians KILLED by US Troops
(11:21:23 PM) CapitalistPig: we all know israeli is code word for JOO
(11:21:25 PM) HisMajesty: ultra super top secret, as no one knows what the hell it stands for
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(11:21:55 PM) sevenless: Israel gives the average gaza resident a couple of liters of water a day and they're going to haiti to act like the red fucking cross
(11:21:56 PM) pukey: eldragon, that doesn't help.
(11:22:01 PM) eldragon: Undear US, do you know what's the Negre Perle of the Pirates?
(11:22:01 PM) HisMajesty: That is, communism in cuba, comes at the hands of one code name varnish
(11:22:20 PM) Makinami_Mari: sevenless: oh.
(11:22:33 PM) sevenless: Watch out for extreme israeli propaganda on the news in the next few days
(11:22:36 PM) HisMajesty: eldragon, actually, the bagdad zoo requires yoo, to feed the cat.
(11:23:18 PM) Makinami_Mari: sevenless: how illegal is israel?
(11:23:23 PM) pukey: "Welcome back to Obama's America".....Chris Matthews has this shit on Tv.
(11:23:33 PM) pukey: It's about how Obama has improved race relations or something.
(11:23:38 PM) sevenless: Makinami_Mari: international law is just for the benefit of the US anyway
(11:23:39 PM) pukey: Fucking liberal media.
(11:23:49 PM) sevenless: Makinami_Mari: but Israel certainly has no right to exist
(11:23:52 PM) eldragon: Nobel Peace Price Obama's words: THE WAR IS NECESSARY.
(11:24:12 PM) sevenless: Obama should give that fucking medal back
(11:24:16 PM) pukey: No nation has the "right" to exist.
(11:24:24 PM) HisMajesty: eldragon, well, they give a prize for politics, it's called "whatever you want, asshole"
(11:24:29 PM) pukey: If Israel sticks with the 1948 deal, everything would be fine.
(11:24:49 PM) HisMajesty: communism is dull because, there's no politics.
(11:24:53 PM) sevenless: pukey: Nations have no right to be ethnic supremacist
(11:24:55 PM) pukey: I was bitching those guys otu last night and they make the exact same claim.
(11:25:00 PM) sevenless: Israel is a racist state by constitution
(11:25:05 PM) pukey: Palestine was never an nation and has no right to exist.
(11:25:06 PM) CapitalistPig: pukey - if you want to play that card -- Israel can just fuck everyone around her and take all the land they want
(11:25:09 PM) HisMajesty: I mean, there really isn't politics.
(11:25:14 PM) CapitalistPig: if thats how you view land rights
(11:25:16 PM) HisMajesty: good or bad. or any
(11:25:22 PM) pukey: There is no reason they can't share.
(11:25:23 PM) sevenless: I agree pukey. All of present day israel belongs to the palestinian people
(11:25:30 PM) pukey: And most people on both sides are willing to do that.
(11:25:31 PM) sevenless: The jews can fuck right off back to europe
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(11:25:47 PM) pukey: Eh, it's a small minority of assholes in Israel.
(11:25:49 PM) pukey: Same as in the US.
(11:25:50 PM) CapitalistPig: except the palestinian people did jack shit with their land they got and the Israelis made a stable and progressive society
(11:25:53 PM) CapitalistPig: israelis > palies
(11:25:57 PM) sevenless: No, almost all jewish israelis are racist
(11:26:04 PM) pukey: I don't think so.
(11:26:16 PM) sevenless: They all hate and fear arabs and non-jews generally
(11:26:17 PM) pukey: Their society teaches them to be, distorts the history....
(11:26:20 PM) HisMajesty: sevenless, we were planning on letting california fall into the ocean, you know, but we decided, if the jews are forced to leave israel.. we'd rather israel fall into the sea.
(11:26:22 PM) pukey: But that's the power structure, not the people.
(11:26:30 PM) HypothesisFrog: US sends "solar powered Bibles" to Haiti. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/19/2796032.htm
(11:26:33 PM) HisMajesty: of course God willing, we can make that happen.
(11:26:35 PM) subtitle: [ Solar-powered Bibles sent to Haiti - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ]
(11:26:38 PM) pukey: Have you seen Invasion 101?
(11:26:43 PM) sevenless: It's the people. Judaism is inherently racist.
(11:26:57 PM) pukey: It is mostly Jews testifying against the occupation in that.
(11:27:10 PM) CapitalistPig: pukey - youre saying that Israel has no "right" to exist -- where do nations source their legitimacy?
(11:27:10 PM) sevenless: That is a tiny proportion of jews, who are seen as traitors by most others
(11:27:11 PM) pukey: It was good.
(11:27:22 PM) eldragon: don't forget to put US invasion to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti
(11:27:23 PM) subtitle: [ History of Haiti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
(11:27:28 PM) pukey: I don't think so. The others just don't know.
(11:27:32 PM) pukey: It's exactly like this in America.
(11:27:37 PM) CapitalistPig: eldragon - the US is fucking helping Haiti
(11:27:38 PM) pukey: Do you think all Americans are racist?
(11:27:38 PM) CapitalistPig: jesus christ
(11:27:41 PM) sevenless: HypothesisFrog: a bible, just what you need if you're fucking starving
(11:27:48 PM) CapitalistPig: they have a disaste there, US and other westerns go to help, and leftists call it an invasion
(11:27:51 PM) CapitalistPig: gotta love the logic
(11:27:53 PM) HisMajesty: sevenless, the jews are helping out in haiti, just kidding, the israelis are helping out in haiti, which makes all these unnessicary detractions by people like chavez, all the more reason to treat it like he's against israel
(11:27:57 PM) HypothesisFrog: sevenless that's what I would have thought too.
(11:27:59 PM) sevenless: pukey: no, it's very different. most israelis want arabs to be kicked out of the country
(11:27:59 PM) pukey: Our government does all kinds of racist shit but most people aren't.
(11:28:14 PM) pukey: I don't see how that is any different at all.
(11:28:23 PM) sevenless: most white americans don't want all non-whites to be expelled
(11:28:28 PM) HisMajesty: the question by the french was a valid and very important one, and they decided to discuss that, in canada.
(11:28:36 PM) pukey: No, but they want to subjugate the rest of the world.
(11:28:57 PM) HisMajesty: probably signalling to the dumbasses in the leftist despot side of the world, that's where people go through to smuggle cigars.
(11:28:59 PM) sevenless: how are you measuring that?
(11:29:00 PM) pukey: We're building a fence on the Mexican border.
(11:29:10 PM) HisMajesty: but I got my plan for cuba, it starts with varnish
(11:29:11 PM) sevenless: fences are good, if they're on your land
(11:29:11 PM) pukey: Because we elect the politicians who start all tehse wars.
(11:29:17 PM) pukey: Bullshit.
(11:29:22 PM) pukey: It's the same thing.
(11:29:26 PM) sevenless: the US should protect its own borders
(11:29:33 PM) pukey: We steal Mexican resources just like Israel steals Palestinian resources.
(11:29:41 PM) pukey: It maeks no difference what country you are in.
(11:29:49 PM) sevenless: nope. israel has never defined its own borders. it steals land constantly
(11:30:03 PM) sevenless: by the fundamental nature of judaism, it has to
(11:30:26 PM) sevenless: (which is that god gave the jews all the land in the middle east)
(11:30:36 PM) pukey: So we don't steal land (except we're occupying Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti), we steal resources.
(11:30:40 PM) pukey: It's the same damn thing.
(11:30:46 PM) shemale-magic: MITT will be our next president
(11:30:49 PM) pukey: We think our Christianity makes us superior.
(11:30:51 PM) pukey: It's exactly the same.
(11:30:52 PM) HisMajesty: pukey, actually, we don't steal. only some do. whereas, kleptocracy is common in republics.
(11:30:58 PM) sevenless: pukey: iraq wasn't about resources, it was a war for israel
(11:31:00 PM) shemale-magic: capitalism is awesome
(11:31:07 PM) shemale-magic: all of my 6 gods bless USA
(11:31:12 PM) HisMajesty: okie? thanks.
(11:31:16 PM) pukey: sevenless, we wanted to make an Arab democracy that we could control.
(11:31:21 PM) pukey: It had nothing to do with Israel.
(11:31:27 PM) shemale-magic: I want to know about more startups using netbsd!
(11:31:30 PM) pukey: It probably had more to do with disassociating ourselves with Israel.
(11:31:30 PM) shemale-magic: nuke israel
(11:31:44 PM) pukey: If you think we are so in the Israeli pocket, why do we give as much money to Egypt?
(11:31:49 PM) sevenless: pukey: that's not true at all. iraq was invaded because that was what the zionists wanted
(11:32:01 PM) pukey: I don't think so.
(11:32:03 PM) sevenless: pukey: it's a bribe to keep egypt an ally of jizzrael
(11:32:08 PM) HisMajesty: you're talking about regimes that steal to the King of France. you are rather cute, but not in a good way. cute like general raul castro blowing up a hershey sugar factory terroristically
(11:32:11 PM) sevenless: obviously, since camp david
(11:32:17 PM) pukey: I think you're an anti-Semite myself.
(11:32:21 PM) HisMajesty: "general", my ass.
(11:32:22 PM) pukey: But that's just my opinion.
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(11:32:30 PM) sevenless: well, that's irrelevant to this discussion anyway
(11:32:37 PM) pukey: You excuse the US when we do the exact same thing.
(11:32:40 PM) sevenless: personal attacks don't constitute logical arguments
(11:32:42 PM) pukey: Israel didn't kill a million people. We did.
(11:32:51 PM) pukey: It summarizes my argument.
(11:32:58 PM) sevenless: zionists controlling US policy did.
(11:33:00 PM) pukey: You apply a different criteria to Israel because it justifies your beliefs.
(11:33:03 PM) HisMajesty: those assholes only knowledge of war, period, is all the circumventions of law and order which became genocides in africa.
(11:33:07 PM) HisMajesty: racist? damn right.
(11:33:14 PM) heckler^: pukey, when is that big bag of crank going to run out
(11:33:28 PM) sevenless: specifically the advisers to the president, secretary of defense and intelligence bureau chiefs, in collusion with jewish media
(11:33:31 PM) pukey: heckler^, I've only done meth a few times and I've been out of drugs since Friday.
(11:33:35 PM) pukey: But thanks for looking out for me.
(11:33:40 PM) CapitalistPig: i wish HisMajesty would just go to a fucking island of autistic people that has a special internet where only autistic people go and could rant to each other and ramble until the end of time
(11:34:00 PM) heckler^: pukey, so you fiend on irc between scores
(11:34:07 PM) HisMajesty: CapitalistPig, I'm not her to grant you fucking wishes. NO one is your genie, get over what you think about others.
(11:34:22 PM) CapitalistPig: HisMajesty - i will never give up. you autistic worm
(11:34:23 PM) eldragon: The U.S. retained control of Haiti's external finances until 1947. <-- as a kind of US embargo.
(11:34:29 PM) sevenless: the fact is that the plan to invade iraq was very clearly set out in the PNAC policy document which was then implemented by its authors when they got into Bush's government
(11:34:29 PM) linuxguy101: Look at this junk, America attacks Haiti! http://newsworldwide.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/did-h-a-a-r-p-trigger-an-earthquake-in-haiti/
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(11:34:30 PM) subtitle: [ Did H.A.A.R.P. Trigger an Earthquake in Haiti? - News Worldwide ]
(11:34:36 PM) pukey: I'm not fiending. I'm no junky.
(11:34:52 PM) HisMajesty: CapitalistPig, good, then I hope your family knows that extermination comes at a price...
(11:34:58 PM) heckler^: you've been in here for 5 days
(11:35:02 PM) pukey: sevenless, we elected him twice.
(11:35:06 PM) CapitalistPig: wtf is HAARP?
(11:35:08 PM) sevenless: and the PNAC plan was directly copied from the Israeli policy document "A Clean Break"
(11:35:09 PM) heckler^: like a maniac
(11:35:10 PM) pukey: We agreed with what he was doing.
(11:35:15 PM) pukey: It was not the Jews.
(11:35:19 PM) sevenless: pukey: Of course it was
(11:35:30 PM) sevenless: Jewish media propagandized for the war
(11:35:44 PM) pukey: Take your illuminati bullshit to some high school kids.
(11:35:48 PM) pukey: I'm not buying it.
(11:35:55 PM) sevenless: Go read The Israel Lobby
(11:35:55 PM) linuxguy101: CapitalistPig: i dont know, go there and find out..
(11:36:05 PM) pukey: Go read about the Bilderberg group.
(11:36:07 PM) pukey: It's all bullshit.
(11:36:07 PM) HisMajesty: CapitalistPig can't look shit up.
(11:36:09 PM) shemale-magic: http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Dominique_Strauss-Kahn another jewbag
(11:36:11 PM) subtitle: [ Wikipedia:Dominique Strauss-Kahn - Global Warming Art ]
(11:36:13 PM) CapitalistPig: linuxguy101 - i dont do blogs, nothxd
(11:36:17 PM) sevenless: It's not a conspiracy theory to point out where the idea to invade iraq came from
(11:36:22 PM) sevenless: namely, zionists
(11:36:27 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - wrong
(11:36:28 PM) shemale-magic: jewsbags
(11:36:29 PM) sevenless: it's all out in the open
(11:36:33 PM) CapitalistPig: oil security
(11:36:35 PM) CapitalistPig: is the #1 reason
(11:36:36 PM) shemale-magic: yeah israel is sand and usa welfare
(11:36:38 PM) linuxguy101: CapitalistPig: i only watch fox man
(11:36:43 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: fail. the US hasn't got shit from it in terms of oil
(11:36:46 PM) shemale-magic: take all that money and pay down 12T deficit
(11:36:49 PM) linuxguy101: Foodball and fox..
(11:36:50 PM) HisMajesty: or doesn't look anything up. do your own work, any of it.
(11:37:01 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - you are not looking at it strategically
(11:37:04 PM) linuxguy101: Get me some beer and football
(11:37:06 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - down the line, this will pay off
(11:37:13 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: strategically, china's got all the oil contracts
(11:37:14 PM) CapitalistPig: the investments that the government has put in, and the presence of US private firms
(11:37:16 PM) sevenless: china and europe
(11:37:17 PM) linuxguy101: what the hell are you guys doing in here talking politics anyway..
(11:37:23 PM) shemale-magic: capitalism works but if governmetn is allowed to simply create money outa thing air thereby stealing ownership from those who produce, then you hamstring the system and dilute the signals of what should and shouldnt be produced
(11:37:25 PM) CapitalistPig: im not talking about purely production, sevenless
(11:37:25 PM) sevenless: no, it was done for the jews.
(11:37:26 PM) shemale-magic: bam!
(11:37:28 PM) pukey: We buy oil on a global market.
(11:37:30 PM) shemale-magic: sure ti was
(11:37:34 PM) pukey: It doesn't matter who gets it. It depresses the prices for everybody.
(11:37:35 PM) shemale-magic: why are all fed guys jooz
(11:37:40 PM) shemale-magic: http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Dominique_Strauss-Kahn why is IMF guy a jewbag
(11:37:42 PM) subtitle: [ Wikipedia:Dominique Strauss-Kahn - Global Warming Art ]
(11:37:43 PM) shemale-magic: I mean wtf
(11:37:43 PM) linuxguy101: it will all be outlawed in a few weeks
(11:37:44 PM) sevenless: shemale-magic: nepotism is my guess
(11:37:49 PM) shemale-magic: yah
(11:37:52 PM) CapitalistPig: the US military and defense dept are constantly thinking up scenarios where shit goes to hell
(11:37:55 PM) shemale-magic: the fed is unconstitional
(11:37:56 PM) sevenless: jews appoint other jews
(11:37:58 PM) HisMajesty: well, no, most of columbia's oil contracts are china and china and china, you'd think that would appease farc.
(11:38:02 PM) shemale-magic: any powers not enumerated goto the states
(11:38:02 PM) HisMajesty: but nooooooo
(11:38:05 PM) CapitalistPig: theres a fucking massive base in Iraq for the US
(11:38:06 PM) linuxguy101: what is the fed?
(11:38:13 PM) shemale-magic: the conerss cant create a bank that wont answer to congress
(11:38:15 PM) shemale-magic: WTF
(11:38:17 PM) shemale-magic: end the fed now
(11:38:18 PM) CapitalistPig: Iraq is the US' pet
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(11:38:33 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: the US spent trillions on it and didn't get shit in terms of oil
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(11:38:36 PM) CapitalistPig: Iraq has one of the largest reserves, period
(11:38:39 PM) HisMajesty: so maybe the chinese need to call up some us and euro companies, and we need to drop a bomb on chavez.
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(11:38:41 PM) shemale-magic: with 700B bailout why doesnt USA buy MICROSOFT and AMD
(11:38:53 PM) sevenless: The US is now threatening Iran - again Iran poses no threat to the USA
(11:38:57 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - not trillions, but you are really naive if you think its a matter of Bomb -> Get Oil
(11:39:00 PM) CapitalistPig: its much more strategic than that
(11:39:03 PM) shemale-magic: then all unemplyed fucks get pressed into service to work for AMD and microsoft
(11:39:05 PM) shemale-magic: bam
(11:39:06 PM) sevenless: The only way any of this makes sense is because Israel fucking controls Amerivca
(11:39:14 PM) HisMajesty: sevenless, cuba supposedly didn't pose a threat to the US.
(11:39:16 PM) shemale-magic: then buy biggest wind turbine corp and expand that accross the usa
(11:39:24 PM) shemale-magic: forget grid jsut make a ll local to each stae
(11:39:26 PM) HisMajesty: "supposedly"
(11:39:29 PM) shemale-magic: make each state amke its own power
(11:39:29 PM) shemale-magic: bam
(11:39:30 PM) pukey: You don't need Israel to explain
(11:39:30 PM) shemale-magic: done
(11:39:32 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: That's just stealth-zionist chomskyite bullshit
(11:39:33 PM) shemale-magic: economic recovery
(11:39:33 PM) pukey: American greed.
(11:39:39 PM) HisMajesty: and that's half of the magic behind varnish
(11:39:43 PM) pukey: It is a problem with our society. Jews have nothing to do with it.
(11:39:43 PM) ThrobbingPython: dont blame israel blame USA
(11:40:01 PM) HisMajesty: we respect their territory
(11:40:02 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - so your hypothesis is that Iraq was invaded to provide a local Western base against Israel?s enemies in Iran et al. ?
(11:40:05 PM) sevenless: pukey: jews are an enormously powerful minority who've hijacked US foreign policy
(11:40:12 PM) pukey: Israel isn't consuming 20% of the world's resources. We are.
(11:40:14 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: No, it was done to destroy Israel's enemies.
(11:40:16 PM) pukey: That is the root of the problem.
(11:40:21 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: That's why Iran is "next"
(11:40:27 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - Iraq was an Israeli enemy?
(11:40:29 PM) CapitalistPig: lulz
(11:40:29 PM) HisMajesty: like I said, we respect cuba's little "territory"
(11:40:40 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: Of course. Saddam was their biggest strategic threat
(11:40:49 PM) shemale-magic: jews are racist, yet claim all others are, ultimate hypocrits lo, and use governmetn to screw people, and jews act as a team
(11:40:49 PM) CapitalistPig: how so?
(11:40:51 PM) sevenless: They bombed his reactor already
(11:40:55 PM) pukey: Israel is but a small chapter in what the US does in the world.
(11:41:27 PM) sevenless: pukey: No president can get elected without sucking israeli cock. No other country in the world has that privilege in america.
(11:41:27 PM) pukey: You think Israel is using us but in reality we are using Israel.
(11:41:30 PM) Makinami_Mari: israel and who else, pukey?
(11:41:35 PM) sevenless: pukey: stop reading chomsky
(11:41:45 PM) pukey: I've actually never read Chomsky.
(11:41:49 PM) HisMajesty: with vz liberated, farc will seriously act up, israel and europe in vz, and the americas in columbia.
(11:41:51 PM) pukey: If he came to that conclusion, I probably should.
(11:41:52 PM) slimjimflim [n=chatzill@unaffiliated/slimjimflim] entered the room.
(11:41:59 PM) HisMajesty: bring the whole family for a whole new ball game.
(11:42:08 PM) sevenless: Chomsky has this claim that the US-Israel alliance is about US imperialism in Israel (he never actually says what the US gets out of it)
(11:42:09 PM) heckler^: chomsky is boring as hell
(11:42:18 PM) heckler^: he's a whiner though, so you might like it
(11:42:22 PM) sevenless: Chomsky says this because he's a stealth-zionist jew
(11:42:25 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - isnt it a stupid argument if he never postulates what the US gets out of it?
(11:42:25 PM) pukey: We get nuclear weapons in the Middle East.
(11:42:30 PM) HisMajesty: farc(e) will end up trapped, they have to surrender or.. fight both sides.
(11:42:31 PM) pukey: Don't be ridiculous.
(11:42:31 PM) Makinami_Mari: cold war never was ww3.
(11:42:32 PM) eldragon: US is doing the WAR on Haiti. Haitians will be killed by US troops.
(11:42:43 PM) Makinami_Mari: ww3 is like hiv, awaiting full blown aids.
(11:42:44 PM) HisMajesty: if they use terrorism, we go no quarter.
(11:42:45 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: yes, yes it is, but it's taken in generations of college leftists and distracted them from the truth about jewish power in america
(11:42:54 PM) pukey: We have a buddy in Egypt and a buddy in Israel and we control the oil that fuels our society.
(11:43:00 PM) heckler^: sevenless, the US gets a base in the middle east from which to spy and run their underhanded dealings
(11:43:08 PM) pukey: Go read about the oil embargo and waht that did to us.
(11:43:13 PM) CapitalistPig: its astonishing how many high positions jews have in industry and academia and government in the US
(11:43:14 PM) CapitalistPig: it really is
(11:43:15 PM) sevenless: heckler^: no it doesn't, no US troops in israel.
(11:43:21 PM) Makinami_Mari: GET THEM BY THE BOLLOCKS I SAY
(11:43:22 PM) CapitalistPig: i dont mean that from an anti-semetic standpoint or anything
(11:43:22 PM) shemale-magic: jews onyl hire jews
(11:43:23 PM) HisMajesty: the middle eastern partners.. will sit it out, just in case.
(11:43:23 PM) eldragon: imagine an Obama Out Of Control
(11:43:23 PM) CapitalistPig: just the observation alone
(11:43:24 PM) Makinami_Mari: INDEED.
(11:43:25 PM) CapitalistPig: its truly amazing
(11:43:28 PM) shemale-magic: and sue those places withotu a bunch of jews
(11:43:30 PM) sevenless: Israel spies the fuck out of america and sells its secrets to the chinese
(11:43:31 PM) Makinami_Mari: UKUSA
(11:43:33 PM) heckler^: sevenless, not troops... weapons and intel
(11:43:35 PM) shemale-magic: as if a jew must be in each place
(11:43:38 PM) shemale-magic: waht a joke
(11:43:43 PM) HisMajesty: keeping an eye out for movements by leftist states.
(11:43:44 PM) CapitalistPig: yea Israel spies on the US like crazy
(11:43:49 PM) pukey: sevenless, as they probably should, as they are the ones who are being manipulated.
(11:44:01 PM) Makinami_Mari: full blown ww3 will involve icbms, ahem.
(11:44:04 PM) ***Makinami_Mari coughs
(11:44:12 PM) Makinami_Mari: especially on military targets.
(11:44:14 PM) sevenless: pukey: your intellectual contortions to avoid the simple truth of jew control of america are increasingly pornographic
(11:44:16 PM) Makinami_Mari: first.
(11:44:22 PM) CapitalistPig: haha
(11:44:26 PM) HisMajesty: the leftist states over there will be up to their eyeballs in intelligence warfare.. pinned down. if not, dubai calls india.
(11:44:35 PM) ThrobbingPython: lolz @ 'V'
(11:44:37 PM) eldragon: Haiti is for PIRATES in every STORY, it's called the NEGRE PERLE of the PIRATES.
(11:44:38 PM) ThrobbingPython: oops
(11:44:38 PM) HisMajesty: to really pin them down
(11:44:42 PM) pukey: sevenless, your blatant disregard for all evidence to the contrary only proves your anti-semitism.
(11:44:42 PM) ThrobbingPython: lolz @ 'simple truth of jew control of america'
(11:44:54 PM) pukey: You are just as guilty, if not more, than the Israelis you so despise.
(11:45:11 PM) sevenless: pukey: jew control is the theory of everything as far as US international relations go
(11:45:27 PM) pukey: Right, and string theory is a theory of everything too.
(11:45:28 PM) pukey: Get a clue.
(11:45:47 PM) slimjimflim: i wonder what plain ice cream would taste like if it didn't have vanilla in it
(11:45:47 PM) sevenless: Unlike string theory, this one's very much testable and there's strong evidence
(11:45:59 PM) sevenless: There is no other reason for the US threatening Iran than that the Jews want it.
(11:46:12 PM) heckler^ left the room (quit: "This computer has gone to sleep").
(11:46:13 PM) pukey: You have convinced yourself that there is an easy explanation because you are intellectually lazy.
(11:46:21 PM) ThrobbingPython: intresting. how do u test a 'jewish conspiracy?'
(11:46:23 PM) Makinami_Mari: say the icbms destroy military might, the civilians will form militias and have at it.
(11:46:24 PM) HisMajesty: eldragon, do you have a problem with the fact that the french west india company was actually GOOD for haiti?
(11:46:43 PM) HisMajesty: there can be nothing ill to be said of it.
(11:46:47 PM) Makinami_Mari: the icbms number one target is the aircraft carrier. durr.
(11:46:49 PM) Makinami_Mari: common sense.
(11:46:57 PM) HisMajesty: except it was a thorn in the spanish speakers side.
(11:47:16 PM) slimjimflim: pukey: why should we invade iran? do they have nukes?
(11:47:16 PM) eldragon: is Haiti for ICBM against Cuba ? xD
(11:47:21 PM) Makinami_Mari: it doesn't even require an atomic warhead
(11:47:22 PM) HisMajesty: that's one thorn today, spain will say it was proud to bear.
(11:47:28 PM) Makinami_Mari: eldragon: u jest.
(11:47:28 PM) pukey: There is plenty of reason for the US to threaten Iran. We want to install another shah. Go read a history book.
(11:47:34 PM) Makinami_Mari: icbm means intercontinental.
(11:47:39 PM) Makinami_Mari: not truck mounted missle.
(11:47:40 PM) ThrobbingPython: icbm should target submarines :P
(11:47:42 PM) Makinami_Mari: amercian shit, jesus.
(11:47:48 PM) slimjimflim: pukey: does it have anything to do w/ nukes?
(11:47:53 PM) sevenless: pukey: that's a ridiculous bullshit theory considering that the only people bitching about iran are jews
(11:47:55 PM) eldragon: US wanted to install an Inter Continental Ballistic Missile on Haiti
(11:47:56 PM) HisMajesty: them latin leftists don't respect their mother enough.
(11:48:15 PM) johnnywannabe: (11:48:16 PM) Makinami_Mari: huge giant icbms with conventional warheads.
(11:48:22 PM) pukey: sevenless, again, go read about the embargo. When we run out of oil, we are fucked.
(11:48:26 PM) johnnywannabe: its a love song :)
(11:48:27 PM) Makinami_Mari: who ever gets hits first like whoa.
(11:48:33 PM) pukey: We do not want the Soviets to have control of Iran.
(11:48:35 PM) johnnywannabe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiySJ3jUjqk
(11:48:35 PM) subtitle: [ YouTube - Voltaire LIVE@NYAF07 - Bomb New Jersey ]
(11:48:54 PM) slimjimflim: pukey: hey, the russians have nukes too, let's invade them
(11:48:55 PM) sevenless: pukey: there is no reason, apart from the jews, why the US and iran should not be allies
(11:48:59 PM) eldragon: US invaded the Haiti's airspace
(11:49:00 PM) pukey: We are installing the missile shield in Europe not to protect Israel but to defend resources that we want for ourselves.
(11:49:09 PM) eldragon: and also the Haiti's airports
(11:49:13 PM) Makinami_Mari: pukey: like overfishing?
(11:49:16 PM) HisMajesty: pukey, why shouldn't we just give it back to the shah as iran is really truly an ishanate.
(11:49:19 PM) pukey: We don't want to be allies. We want to install a friendly govoernment so they will sell us cheap oil.
(11:49:28 PM) Makinami_Mari: japan (tm) & (c) AMERCIA
(11:49:33 PM) sevenless: the Israel lobby (AIPAC) got the US government to embargo Iran, which costs the oil companies billions each year
(11:49:41 PM) slimjimflim: the russian military industrial complex if you will was paid for by the american one
(11:49:48 PM) pukey: It costs Iran billions of dollars.
(11:49:49 PM) slimjimflim: back during ww2
(11:49:51 PM) sevenless: If it was about oil, the policy would be the opposite of the present day
(11:50:03 PM) eldragon: US is doing the WAR on Haiti. Haitians will be killed by US troops.
(11:50:03 PM) slimjimflim: as was the nazi military industrial complex
(11:50:08 PM) pukey: We want control of that resource. We do not have control over fundamentalist clerics.
(11:50:16 PM) slimjimflim: thanks to granddaddy bush
(11:50:24 PM) HisMajesty: pukey, actually, we did it to reduce the pollution in estonia.
(11:50:27 PM) pukey: We want to reinstall the shah.
(11:50:28 PM) shemale-magic: vmware and redhat are 7B between them
(11:50:36 PM) shemale-magic: use bailout money to buy those companies
(11:50:36 PM) HisMajesty: God bless the estonians.
(11:50:39 PM) slimjimflim: you do know bush sr.'s dad funded the nazis right?
(11:50:39 PM) pukey: Which is exactly what we were trying to do in Iraq.
(11:50:40 PM) Makinami_Mari: Haiti has ceased to exist, thank you UN
(11:50:45 PM) shemale-magic: then tain all unemplyed fucks on cmoputer stuff
(11:50:49 PM) pukey: This is about expanding our empire, not the Jewish empire.
(11:50:54 PM) slimjimflim: pukey: why is it any of our business who rules iran?
(11:50:54 PM) HisMajesty: you guys are too far gone.
(11:50:55 PM) Makinami_Mari: this chan is so anti-welfarist
(11:50:58 PM) eldragon: Haiti will be renamed to Haiwi
(11:50:59 PM) Makinami_Mari: rei must be proud.
(11:51:01 PM) shemale-magic: if usa sold africa to private rich in USA
(11:51:08 PM) slimjimflim: other than we want to control their resources
(11:51:09 PM) shemale-magic: africa would move forward 100 years
(11:51:09 PM) ThrobbingPython: heh. bailout money. what a fuckup. go usa
(11:51:17 PM) eldragon: Haiti will be renamed to US's Haiwi
(11:51:30 PM) slimjimflim: it's not the government's job to control resources
(11:51:35 PM) slimjimflim: it's private industry's job
(11:51:41 PM) slimjimflim: government doesn't MAKE anything
(11:51:44 PM) HisMajesty: eldragon, why? because obama lived in hawaii? you racist piece of shitted out cannibal leftist butt baby tird
(11:51:54 PM) slimjimflim: it just sucks money from the people who actually work for a living
(11:52:06 PM) shemale-magic: government if it bought AMD could make processors
(11:52:07 PM) johnnywannabe: noone enjoying the genius that is voltaire?
(11:52:08 PM) HisMajesty: suck off!
(11:52:23 PM) shemale-magic: hire all unemployed women to give handjobs for 1$
(11:52:35 PM) ***HisMajesty starts swinging his keyboard.
(11:52:39 PM) CapitalistPig: lol
(11:52:41 PM) CapitalistPig: shemale magic? wtf?
(11:52:52 PM) slimjimflim: shemale-magic: if the market demands it, that's what will happen
(11:53:05 PM) ***pukey prepares a syringe of thorazine for HisMajesty.
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(11:53:18 PM) HisMajesty: shemale-magic, they already do that. and they don't even have to use any part of themselves. It's called their mouth.
(11:53:25 PM) sevenless: Nope. The US bankrolls Israel to steal Arab land, incite hatred and terror against Americans and generally pursue policies that hurt America
(11:53:31 PM) HisMajesty: there's more than one way to jerk someone around.
(11:53:34 PM) sevenless: The only explanation for US policy is jew control
(11:53:39 PM) CapitalistPig: how is no one else recognizing this dude?s name? lol
(11:53:40 PM) eldragon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti
(11:53:41 PM) subtitle: [ United States occupation of Haiti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
(11:53:50 PM) pukey: Yes, and Americans are too stupid to see that. You're the only one.
(11:53:53 PM) HisMajesty: but there's also 1000 things you should never do. Putting your head in a lions mouth, for instance
(11:54:07 PM) pukey: That is ridiculous.
(11:54:07 PM) CapitalistPig: eldragon - that was decades ago you noob
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(11:54:07 PM) slimjimflim: sevenless: that's because the people running the u.s. want to get rid of it and replace it with the new world order
(11:54:15 PM) sevenless: pukey: Most Americans are religious,so of course they're stupid
(11:54:21 PM) slimjimflim: ...get rid of the u.s.
(11:54:25 PM) HisMajesty: yer crazy
(11:54:25 PM) pukey: Most Americans think Jews killed Jesus.
(11:54:32 PM) sevenless: pukey: Second, the jew media will never allow the truth to be spoken
(11:54:34 PM) pukey: A very small fraction of them believe they are the chosen people.
(11:54:34 PM) HisMajesty: trying to not make sense.
(11:54:41 PM) slimjimflim: pukey: well it was actually the romans
(11:54:58 PM) slimjimflim: if you believe what the bible says
(11:54:59 PM) ThrobbingPython: american media is run by the govt not 'the jews'
(11:55:00 PM) HisMajesty: I mean, trying to leave haiti alone too much invites the crappy leftists.
(11:55:01 PM) CapitalistPig: isnt that the main reason why jews walk around with a chip on their shoulder? they actually believe they are the chosen people?
(11:55:06 PM) shemale-magic: peole need to understand that all law aside from the constituion can be removed anytime
(11:55:10 PM) HisMajesty: which they know
(11:55:10 PM) shemale-magic: case law is shit
(11:55:14 PM) HisMajesty: which is why they have you.
(11:55:14 PM) sevenless: If any public figure says that american jews have too much political power, he will be either cut out of public life or just assassinated
(11:55:20 PM) HisMajesty: they don't even pay you shut the fuck up
(11:55:21 PM) shemale-magic: an adjudication from the bench by fuckhead communist judges is shit
(11:55:27 PM) shemale-magic: end public school
(11:55:28 PM) eldragon: are you "cacos" dear US troops?
(11:55:33 PM) HisMajesty: and if they did, we'd have your ass in gitmo
(11:55:38 PM) CapitalistPig: eldragon - youre an idiot
(11:55:42 PM) slimjimflim: every religion thinks it is right and everyone else is wrong
(11:55:42 PM) sevenless: eldragon: that wikipedia page needs a 2010 entry to it
(11:55:46 PM) pukey: shemale-magic is such a kickass nickname.
(11:55:48 PM) sevenless: eldragon: I'm tempted to update it
(11:55:48 PM) pukey: Well done sir.
(11:55:50 PM) slimjimflim: otherwise they wouldn't believe the shit
(11:55:51 PM) shemale-magic: take all money spent per student on pbulic school and just make libraries bigger
(11:55:56 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - there is no 2010 occupation
(11:55:57 PM) CapitalistPig: this is absurd
(11:56:01 PM) HisMajesty: where we have not stated we couldn't use it to detain spies.
(11:56:06 PM) CapitalistPig: if the US stood by and did nothing to help Haiti, everyone would call the US heartless bastards
(11:56:08 PM) eldragon: Opposition to the Occupation began immediately after the Marines entered Haiti in 1915.
(11:56:12 PM) CapitalistPig: now they do go help, and ppl call them occupiers?
(11:56:12 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: what the fuck? of course there is. The USA invaded
(11:56:26 PM) shemale-magic: I want bioengineerd bettles to be sent into bad area
(11:56:27 PM) sevenless: The US invaded Haiti and occupied the airport and prevented aid coming in
(11:56:29 PM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: http://londobell.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/austrian-economics-versus-keynesian-economics/ <--- you've been vindicated
(11:56:30 PM) shemale-magic: to clean out insurgents
(11:56:30 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - the US is fucking helping Haiti you douche, they are in a lawless hellhole sparked by this earthquake
(11:56:31 PM) subtitle: [ Austrian Economics versus Keynesian Economics - Londo Bell Taskforce ]
(11:56:33 PM) HisMajesty: and if I find out any of you are foriegn enemy spies.. that's it. you're toast.
(11:56:37 PM) eldragon: USA invaded 1st in 1915 illegally, and now again illegally in 2010
(11:56:39 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - youre such a fucking gay troll
(11:56:39 PM) shemale-magic: then once the beetels are done cewing up enemy
(11:56:44 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: the US is fucking Haiti like they've done the last century
(11:56:48 PM) slimjimflim: eldragon: really, tell us more about u.s. haitian relations
(11:56:50 PM) HisMajesty: fin.
(11:56:51 PM) CapitalistPig: makes me truly doubt your opinions on other issues
(11:56:57 PM) CapitalistPig: if you are seriously saying that the US is occupying Haiti
(11:56:58 PM) pukey: But we're doing it because teh Jews want us to.
(11:56:59 PM) CapitalistPig: and invading them
(11:57:01 PM) CapitalistPig: its such bullshit
(11:57:01 PM) shemale-magic: you make em sterile
(11:57:02 PM) pukey: The Jews are behind everything.
(11:57:05 PM) HisMajesty left the room (quit: "Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!").
(11:57:08 PM) CapitalistPig: if the US did nothing, the world would bitch and moan like no other
(11:57:09 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: there are fucking 10,000 troops there, what do you think they're doing
(11:57:11 PM) shemale-magic: so the beetles die in say 30 days
(11:57:16 PM) shemale-magic: bugs got short lifespan
(11:57:23 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - preventing a disaster from getting even further out of hand!
(11:57:24 PM) sevenless: pukey: not everything, just US middle east policy
(11:57:31 PM) shemale-magic: I sya pull all troops and use mroe bioengineered beetles
(11:57:32 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: bullshit, they prevented aid getting through
(11:57:36 PM) pukey: Oh? You say they control our society.
(11:57:50 PM) sevenless: pukey: they control the discourse related to issues that jews care about
(11:57:52 PM) sevenless: namely,israel
(11:57:59 PM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - no they didnt
(11:58:06 PM) eldragon: see the book "War Is a Racket"
(11:58:07 PM) pukey: Ok.
(11:58:08 PM) shemale-magic: yank all funding for israel adn impose 30trillion debt heyowe USA
(11:58:08 PM) CapitalistPig: you are basing your opoinions off 24-hr news flash headlines
(11:58:10 PM) CapitalistPig: youre a joke man
(11:58:13 PM) shemale-magic: roll in NATO
(11:58:16 PM) shemale-magic: and disband israel
(11:58:17 PM) eldragon: remember to see the book "War Is a Racket"
(11:58:17 PM) pukey: Then the USA is in fact worse than Israel and you should shut the fuck up.
(11:58:19 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: the US always pulls this shit
(11:58:26 PM) eldragon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
(11:58:27 PM) subtitle: [ War Is a Racket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
(11:58:28 PM) CapitalistPig: http://www.foxnews.com/images/595143/4_68_011810_helparrives.jpg
(11:58:30 PM) shemale-magic: USA is better than israel in every way
(11:58:41 PM) CapitalistPig: look how the US troops are terrorizing their weaklings
(11:59:03 PM) CapitalistPig: im actually disgusted by all this
(11:59:14 PM) CapitalistPig: the EU managed to collect almost 1/2 a billion dollars
(11:59:14 PM) ThrobbingPython: israel is better than USA cos israel tells USA how high to jump
(11:59:16 PM) Rei_Murasame: the USA actually /owns/ Israel at this point, fyi, --- in fact, I will do graphs on debt and GDP later on today and illustrate it
(11:59:24 PM) ThrobbingPython: USA is israels bitch
(11:59:25 PM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: The US almost certainly wants to put a permanent military base in Haiti for 2 reasons (1) prevent a socialist revolution after Cuba (2) keep an eye on LatAm which is increasingly independent
(11:59:31 PM) pukey: Israel didn't set up all those dictatorships in South America, stage all those coups.
(11:59:33 PM) Rei_Murasame: Israel doesn't tell USA shit, it's the other way around
(11:59:37 PM) sevenless: It's about geopolitical rivalry
(11:59:41 PM) johnnywannabe: anyone wanna talk about black flag stuff? controversial groups that are more into the end justifies the means?
(11:59:44 PM) pukey: Israel didn't start Vietnam or Korea or the Cold War.
(11:59:51 PM) CapitalistPig: if the EU had that kind of money lying around -- why dont they spend it on something wortwhile?
(11:59:52 PM) CapitalistPig: fuck Haiti
(11:59:53 PM) pukey: You are bitching at the wrong country.
(11:59:59 PM) Makinami_Mari: oh ai. aye.
(1/19/2010 12:00:04 AM) CapitalistPig: there are problems in Europe that could be solved with 600 million dollars lying around
(12:00:06 AM) CapitalistPig: total bollocks
(12:00:06 AM) ThrobbingPython: the cold war wasnt even a war
(12:00:06 AM) eldragon: The US occupation of Haiti continued after World War I.
(12:00:23 AM) pukey: Israel isn't building that wall on the Mexican border while simultaneously paying Mexicans subhuman wages to do all of our work.
(12:00:31 AM) CapitalistPig: eldragon - yea and the US still occupies Germany, whats your point?
(12:00:37 AM) sevenless: What the fuck is wrong with enforcing a nation's actual borders
(12:00:46 AM) sevenless: The US needs a fucking border fence with mexico
(12:00:56 AM) pukey: We don't enforce it. We let the drugs through because they make us rich.
(12:01:03 AM) pukey: We let the people through because they make us rich.
(12:01:04 AM) slimjimflim: Rei_Murasame: lmao, that clip is *priceless* :D
(12:01:12 AM) pukey: You really don't see how this works, do you?
(12:01:16 AM) eldragon: US don't forget the US-USSR threaty related to no invasion of the cuban islands
(12:01:33 AM) sevenless: Drugs are just a failed low level civil war within the US
(12:01:40 AM) pukey: You are a fool.
(12:01:41 AM) slimjimflim: bernanke is such a tool
(12:01:45 AM) pukey: We have funded many conflicts with drugs.
(12:01:47 AM) sevenless: These are all wasted resources when China is building itself up
(12:01:56 AM) eldragon: JFKennedy did an agreement that US won't invade the cuban islands
(12:01:59 AM) pukey: Do you remember Iran-Contra?
(12:02:05 AM) pukey: Oh, the Jews were behind that one.
(12:02:06 AM) ThrobbingPython: sevenless fears china
(12:02:17 AM) eldragon: otherwise, Cold War.
(12:02:17 AM) sevenless: pukey: Yes, the Israelis were intermediaries
(12:02:19 AM) pukey: Well, do you know why 70% of Vietnam veterans came back having done heroin?
(12:02:21 AM) sevenless: so, correct
(12:02:26 AM) ThrobbingPython: the jews r behind china too
(12:02:27 AM) pukey: Because we tolerated heroin because it funded the nationalists.
(12:02:33 AM) pukey: We did the same thing through Asia.
(12:03:01 AM) pukey: We're letting drugs back into Afghanistan so we can get rich selling that shit around the world.
(12:03:07 AM) pukey: We didn't take out the Taliban because they were Muslim.
(12:03:12 AM) Makinami_Mari: pukey is a kabbalist
(12:03:15 AM) pukey: We took them otu because they stopped growing poppies.
(12:03:36 AM) eldragon: don't forget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
(12:03:37 AM) subtitle: [ Cuban Missile Crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
(12:03:38 AM) sevenless: pukey reads too much soft-leftist corporate-conspiracy crap
(12:03:51 AM) CapitalistPig: pukey - youre fucking crazy if you think that
(12:03:54 AM) pukey: sevenless, it is known fact that the CIA was bring cocaine into this country to sell to our own citizens.
(12:03:55 AM) johnnywannabe: anyone go through the INWO cards?
(12:04:02 AM) pukey: CIA planes crashed and were loaded with the shit.
(12:04:04 AM) sevenless: the fact is,he twists himself into knots trying to explain simple observations, such as the USA sucking Israel's cock
(12:04:21 AM) CapitalistPig: the US and the world pressured Taliban to do something about the poppy shit -- and Taliban finally acquiesced, and the Taliban was not down with drugs by principle anyway, so they were took care of it
(12:04:24 AM) sevenless: and then invading and threatening all the countries israel happens to dislike
(12:04:27 AM) ***EoN is a JEW
(12:04:30 AM) CapitalistPig: it wasnt that the US raged because the taliban stopped producing poppy seeds
(12:04:30 AM) CapitalistPig: lol
(12:04:31 AM) pukey: We sell drugs to our own citizens to fund foreign militants. Then we lock up those very citizens because it benefits the military-industrial complex.
(12:04:35 AM) sevenless: EoN: what do you want, a cookie?
(12:04:36 AM) pukey: None of this has anything to do with Israel.
(12:04:40 AM) pukey: You are not looking at the big picture.
(12:04:40 AM) eldragon: J.F.Kennedy reached an agreement with the Soviets to dismantle the missiles in exchange for a no-invasion agreement.
(12:04:47 AM) CapitalistPig: pukey - dude how old are you, kid? were you even having hair on your dick when the afghan invasion happened?
(12:04:49 AM) pukey: It is about establishing our empire.
(12:04:51 AM) CapitalistPig: you seem to have zero grasp of the timeline
(12:04:59 AM) pukey: We want to control the world's resources so we can continue to live like rich SOBs.
(12:05:03 AM) eldragon: US violated the agreements.
(12:05:07 AM) EoN: sevenless: yes please
(12:05:19 AM) slimjimflim: Rei_Murasame: The global economy continues to be strong, supported by solid by solid economic growth abroad, u.s. exports should expand further in coming quarters. overall the u.s. economy appears likely to expand at a moderate pace in the 2nd half of 2007 with growth then strengthening a bit in 2008 to a rate close to the economy's underlying trend. -Ben Bernanke
(12:05:21 AM) eldragon: US violated the Red October agreements.
(12:05:39 AM) ***EoN is a JEW. I have connections with powerful figures who orchestrate key world events.
(12:05:42 AM) slimjimflim: he's a pathological liar
(12:05:45 AM) EoN: i just use a secret handshake
(12:05:50 AM) eldragon: US CAN'T INSTALL U.S. BASES IN ANY OF THE CARIBBEAN ISLANDS
(12:05:54 AM) slimjimflim: there's no other way he can say the things he says
(12:05:58 AM) sevenless: If the US gave a shit about resources, it would have kicked Israel under the bus decades ago and shored up its alliances with the muslim world. Mean while China does actually put getting resources first and it's made big head ways in Africa, Iran and the Middle East, Latin America
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(12:06:04 AM) pukey: sevenless, zionism is going to destroy Israel. We give them these weapons not to help them, but so they do our bidding.
(12:06:10 AM) johnnywannabe: < a goy of unlimited potential. i slap hands
(12:06:18 AM) pukey: No, we can't control the Muslim world.
(12:06:20 AM) sevenless: pukey: I agree with the first part, the second is exactly the wrong way round
(12:06:21 AM) pukey: See shah of Iran again.
(12:06:27 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: indeed, it was like /100%/ wrong
(12:06:40 AM) EoN: hey guys, does anyone need a jew for anything? i am a fucken jew bag for hire
(12:06:42 AM) slimjimflim: not like...literally
(12:07:03 AM) sevenless: EoN: hate to break it to you, but that doesn't actually make you good for anything
(12:07:04 AM) pukey: EoN, I need a Jew. Her name is Natalie Portman.
(12:07:14 AM) slimjimflim: fucking krukman
(12:07:18 AM) EoN: wtf sevenless? :( liar
(12:07:18 AM) slimjimflim: krugman
(12:07:34 AM) EoN: it gives me connections. connections and money. BIG money. oil money. *taps nose*
(12:07:54 AM) EoN: and handshakes. SECRET handshakes. with lizards. large, large lizards
(12:08:00 AM) pukey: We fund Israel for the same reason we fund Egypt. To make them our bitch.
(12:08:01 AM) sevenless: EoN: let me find you a great cartoon
(12:08:12 AM) shemale-magic: nah
(12:08:27 AM) pukey: And no, Palestine doesn't help us. We'd prefer that they stop, but the radicals in Israel do give us a weak point to exploit.
(12:08:31 AM) shemale-magic: we fund israel cuz jwes call politician who say nah its bad idea racist assholes adn 'antisemitic'
(12:08:31 AM) sevenless: EoN: http://www.forward.com/articles/123374/
(12:08:32 AM) shemale-magic: lol
(12:08:32 AM) subtitle: [ The Odd Couple – Forward.com ]
(12:08:38 AM) johnnywannabe: To make his schmuck more slim,
(12:08:39 AM) shemale-magic: cant wait for ben stein to debate ron paul
(12:08:40 AM) johnnywannabe: We'll chop off his foreskin!
(12:08:42 AM) johnnywannabe: Give it to the waiter.
(12:08:43 AM) johnnywannabe: He'll bless it for seder.
(12:08:45 AM) johnnywannabe: We'll nosh on it later.
(12:08:52 AM) shemale-magic: I say disband israel
(12:08:54 AM) pukey: We would not be funding Israel, allowing them to commit war crimes, if it did not benefit us.
(12:08:56 AM) sevenless: pukey: Israel pisses on every US peace initiative and Obama has to suck their dicks anyway
(12:09:01 AM) pukey: America is not a generous nation.
(12:09:04 AM) shemale-magic: make 50T they owe usa for all welfare and weapons over year debt on all jews
(12:09:12 AM) shemale-magic: take all soros money to help pay for it
(12:09:14 AM) sevenless: pukey: that is a logical fallacy, since you're assuming your conclusion
(12:09:19 AM) pukey: Israel, that's because we don't care about Palestine. It does not benefit us.
(12:09:38 AM) pukey: If Israel drives the Palestinians out of Israel, what difference does it make to us?
(12:09:53 AM) CapitalistPig: Chavez brands Israel a 'murderous arm of the Yankee empire'
(12:09:54 AM) pukey: A few suicide attacks kill a few people, big deal.
(12:09:55 AM) CapitalistPig: hehe
(12:09:56 AM) sevenless: pukey: quite a lot considering the US has major strategic interests in the broader muslim world
(12:09:58 AM) pukey: We get all kinds of power in the MIddle East.
(12:10:03 AM) sevenless: remember the oil embargo?
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(12:10:10 AM) pukey: We have interests in dominating the Muslim world.
(12:10:12 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: arabs and jews were both made for eachother
(12:10:17 AM) pukey: We do not want to be allies. We want to exploit them.
(12:10:19 AM) shemale-magic: chavez can talk shit all he wants, but until his country is capitalist they will all lvie in grinding poverty
(12:10:21 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: i think it's best for us to duck out of that duel to the death
(12:10:23 AM) eldragon: it's interesting for Haitians knowing what wanted US to Haiti: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/COLDcubanmissile.htm
(12:10:24 AM) subtitle: [ Cuban Missile Crisis ]
(12:10:31 AM) pukey: That is how we consume 20% of the world's resources and have 5% of its people. Because we exploit the rest of the world.
(12:10:34 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: or it will cost national treasure
(12:10:38 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: gold and blood
(12:10:43 AM) eldragon: US wanted to install an US base for ICBMs
(12:10:44 AM) shemale-magic: no
(12:10:45 AM) pukey: We do not want to be friends with China either. But we deal with them when it benefits us.
(12:10:48 AM) EoN: sevenless: lol - awesome
(12:10:50 AM) shemale-magic: because we produce everything
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(12:11:02 AM) shemale-magic: and we dont consume we transmute
(12:11:11 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: as of recent Israel became more and more belligerent because of the unwavering support offered by the Bush administration
(12:11:12 AM) shemale-magic: pukey u sound bit communist there bud
(12:11:18 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: abandoning the peace process was a big mistake
(12:11:20 AM) johnnywannabe: anyone know about 'the people'?
(12:11:21 AM) pukey: I am a communist. Thanks for noticing.
(12:11:23 AM) sevenless: EoN: so as a regular jew the hardcore zionists will exploit the shit out of your naivety too
(12:11:26 AM) shemale-magic: obama doesnt support israel?
(12:11:26 AM) shemale-magic: lol
(12:11:27 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: every year peace comes closer to becoming a foregone conclusion
(12:11:31 AM) EoN: the only time i've ever been intruiged by israelis. was when i was at an outdoor doof in the bush, listening to psytrance through a 30K sound system, and at sunrise, saw a group of israelis wearing shawls, and looking into the sunset looking all like, 'israeli'. but i was on a tonne of acid
(12:11:44 AM) EoN: then i got to know some of them, and realised they were absolute egotistical obnoxious fuckwits
(12:12:05 AM) sevenless: Israelis are fucking hateful people.
(12:12:16 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: some of them are
(12:12:19 AM) pukey: heh. You just talked about a $30K sound system and then called someone an egotistical obnoxious fuckwit.
(12:12:19 AM) sevenless: Every single one I've known bitches about europeans non stop
(12:12:20 AM) pukey: How amusing.
(12:12:23 AM) EoN: they're over-confident
(12:12:29 AM) EoN: because they're tanned & muscular due to their military training
(12:12:32 AM) EoN: and over patriotism
(12:12:33 AM) sevenless: Of course, they're the Chosen Racists
(12:12:39 AM) EoN: over-patriotism.. that sounds familiar...
(12:12:45 AM) EoN: thats *exactly* how you americans are
(12:12:47 AM) pukey: That greed is far worse than patriotism.
(12:12:48 AM) EoN: in the eyes of others
(12:12:49 AM) EoN: too proud
(12:12:52 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: listen to this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHpMhAzj-Tk
(12:12:53 AM) CapitalistPig: s0n-of-a-gun - Israel has resigned itself to the fact that there will have to be a two-state solution
(12:12:53 AM) subtitle: [ YouTube - Mordechai Kedar in al-Jazeera about Jerusalem & Islam ]
(12:13:02 AM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: lol, two state solution, as if
(12:13:11 AM) sevenless: it'll either be one state or no state.
(12:13:13 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: CapitalistPig: is a two state solution possible?
(12:13:20 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: maybe a three state solution
(12:13:42 AM) sevenless: s0n-of-a-gun: israel has made very certain that no palestinian state will be feasible
(12:13:43 AM) CapitalistPig: third one being what?
(12:13:47 AM) CapitalistPig: sevenless - wrong
(12:13:54 AM) sevenless: CapitalistPig: right, look at a map
(12:13:58 AM) EoN: most israelis (at least *all*) the youth i know, aren't into judaism as well
(12:13:58 AM) shemale-magic: we can easily make a palestinean state
(12:14:01 AM) CapitalistPig: even hardline politicians have given in to the idea of a two-state solution
(12:14:06 AM) shemale-magic: as easily as we can disband israel
(12:14:11 AM) EoN: but htey're still tanned skinned, and fit as a warrior from compulsary military training, and brain washed
(12:14:12 AM) pukey: We could, if we wanted to.
(12:14:12 AM) shemale-magic: roll in NATO and disarm the jews
(12:14:24 AM) sevenless: shemale-magic: Bomb the fucking settlements to rubble
(12:14:35 AM) eldragon: is US serious violating the 1962's agreements to Russians in the nuclear threaty?
(12:14:37 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: CapitalistPig: israelis are obstinate and arabs are emotional
(12:14:39 AM) pukey: The reason we don't want to is because it will piss them off.
(12:14:45 AM) slimjimflim: peter schiff is the shiiitttt
(12:15:13 AM) sevenless: The jews will never abandon their land grabs and palestine will never be viable as an independent entity
(12:15:23 AM) sevenless: No, what's going to happen is an israeli civil war.
(12:15:26 AM) shemale-magic: it can be anytime
(12:15:34 AM) sevenless: Ultra-zionists against moderates.
(12:15:41 AM) shemale-magic: end the fed
(12:15:41 AM) pukey: That's right.
(12:15:46 AM) shemale-magic: kick jews outa ashignton
(12:15:49 AM) shemale-magic: jooz
(12:15:50 AM) shemale-magic: lol
(12:15:53 AM) pukey: And the moderates will win because they are supported by everyone.
(12:16:03 AM) sevenless: pukey: The ultras have the IDF.
(12:16:08 AM) pukey: Then this situation corrects itself.
(12:16:13 AM) pukey: The IDF is not full of zionists.
(12:16:19 AM) sevenless: Oh yes it is.
(12:16:24 AM) pukey: The IDF is full of average Israelis who don't want to fuck up Palestinians.
(12:16:29 AM) sevenless: Wrong
(12:16:43 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: this has to be one of history's great ironies
(12:16:59 AM) sevenless: Even the US military is full of racists, but the IDF are pretty much outright nazis
(12:17:30 AM) sevenless: In Gaza they had their fundamentalist rabbis telling them to kill "Amalekites"
(12:17:34 AM) davidd_: hi
(12:17:46 AM) sevenless: Guess who they think the Amalekites are...
(12:17:48 AM) eldragon: don't forget the "Limited Test Ban Treaty" that doesn't appear in wikipedia but it http://www.atomicarchive.com/Treaties/Treaty3.shtml
(12:17:49 AM) subtitle: [ Limited Test Ban Treaty (1963) | Nuclear Arms Control Treaties | atomicarchive.com ]
(12:17:49 AM) pukey: And in Tel Aviv they are dancing at homosexual bars on the weekends.
(12:18:00 AM) EoN: the bit that so many people forget is that israel *DID* make a very reasonable offer of land, and the palestinians rejected it.
(12:18:12 AM) sevenless: EoN: jewish lies
(12:18:21 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: CapitalistPig: no one is innocent there
(12:18:24 AM) shemale-magic: oh please
(12:18:25 AM) pukey: They don't believe fanatical religious bullshit anymore than people in the American military do.
(12:18:29 AM) EoN: sevenless: this is one point where you're completely and ridiculously ignorant
(12:18:30 AM) shemale-magic: all of israel is stolen land
(12:18:41 AM) sevenless: pukey: nope, much more so than the US, and the US is pretty bad
(12:18:42 AM) pukey: Really, Israel is probably more secular than the US.
(12:18:44 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: israel has a right to exist just as palestine
(12:18:44 AM) EoN: its in the history books sunshine. you just ignore it
(12:18:51 AM) shemale-magic: kick jews out
(12:19:20 AM) pukey: sevenless, 42% of Americans think Jesus is coming in 50 years.
(12:19:24 AM) pukey: Israelis are nowhere near that stupid.
(12:19:28 AM) EoN: palestinians will never make any peace or any reasonable bargaining offer with israel.
(12:19:31 AM) eldragon: don't forget that US had violated the agreements of the 1963's Red October related to no-invasion of caribean islands.
(12:19:34 AM) EoN: until they're completely gone or wiped out.
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(12:19:38 AM) sevenless: EoN: Go look at a fucking map. Offering Arafat a bunch of tiny unconnected islands was an offer they never intended to be taken seriously
(12:19:40 AM) EoN: end of story.
(12:19:44 AM) EoN: sevenless: rubbish
(12:19:49 AM) sevenless: EoN: shut your face zionist
(12:19:55 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: sevenless: that is untrue
(12:19:57 AM) pukey: They were unconnected islands in 1948.
(12:20:01 AM) shemale-magic: I think the usa should manufacture again
(12:20:11 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: sevenless: they were given a very generous offer that they rejected
(12:20:13 AM) shemale-magic: and buidl wind and soalr power and a ncie power grid
(12:20:15 AM) pukey: That is not Israel's fault.
(12:20:24 AM) shemale-magic: land mine th eborder and patrl it with radar
(12:20:24 AM) pukey: It is Israel's fault that they are stealing territory from unconnected islands.
(12:20:25 AM) sevenless: s0n-of-a-gun: that's just hasbara. israel's never intended anything like a palestinian state
(12:20:28 AM) pukey: But they did not draw that map.
(12:20:37 AM) shemale-magic: automate factories and let productivity skyrocket
(12:20:45 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: sevenless: it will be difficult to unify two states that were held as separate properties of different countries
(12:20:52 AM) sevenless: the whole point of israel being a jewish state is to enact the jewish religious agenda of grabbing most of the middle east eventually
(12:21:03 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: gaza and the west bank are as territorially compromised as egypt and jordan
(12:21:23 AM) pukey: America is a Christian state. We have designs on the holy land ourselves. We fought the Crusades if you don't remember.
(12:21:41 AM) EoN: lol
(12:21:49 AM) EoN: so true
(12:21:57 AM) slimjimflim: Rei_Murasame: is that your own site?
(12:21:58 AM) sevenless: s0n-of-a-gun: the fact is that the israelis are responsible for their own fate. they deliberately ensured that no palestinian state would ever be possible. what we should hope is that the racist jewish state is destroyed
(12:22:03 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: the design that America has on the holy land is dispensationalist protestantism
(12:22:10 AM) EoN: Australia is about to implement mandatory internet censorship due to christian extremist fundamentalism :(
(12:22:15 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: which is essentially to serve as a harbinger of the apocalypse
(12:22:22 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: a cataclysmic battle
(12:22:22 AM) sevenless: EoN: hahaha
(12:22:27 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: Armageddon.
(12:22:32 AM) pukey: Rootards.
(12:22:39 AM) sevenless: EoN: I bet they'll make criticism of israel illegal - Canada's doing that
(12:22:58 AM) sevenless: The "free west" gets more oppressive every day
(12:23:08 AM) pukey: It always was oppressive.
(12:23:11 AM) EoN: it does. and its FUCKED
(12:23:15 AM) pukey: Read your history book.
(12:23:18 AM) sevenless: At least with China there's no hypocrisy
(12:23:30 AM) EoN: i like how google owned china though LOL!
(12:23:44 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: china got stood up like an ugly date
(12:23:48 AM) EoN: you chinese guys got fucken owned by google
(12:23:54 AM) EoN: hahahahahahah
(12:23:59 AM) sevenless: Google never made any headway in CHina
(12:24:03 AM) optimum: i'm thinking about printing up a few copies of a sign announcing a committee meeting and stating that there will be free pie
(12:24:05 AM) slimjimflim: EoN: the free market hard at work :D
(12:24:11 AM) pukey: Well, I only got 1.5 hour sleep last night. I should not do that again.
(12:24:13 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: yeah sure, if $600 million dollars per year is considered "little headway"
(12:24:14 AM) sevenless: ]That whole bullshit story was Google getting out of town
(12:24:19 AM) pukey: sevenless, you are fighting a skirmish when a war is going on.
(12:24:24 AM) sevenless: Baidu has almost allmarket share
(12:24:27 AM) pukey: I would recommend that you look at the bigger picture.
(12:24:32 AM) pukey: I know it hurts when you're one of the guilty.
(12:24:36 AM) EoN: sevenless you're just upset that google owned you, personally
(12:24:42 AM) slimjimflim: pukey: did you stay up working or stay up bullshitting on irc?
(12:24:46 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: sevenless: thinks $600 million yearly revenue is spare change
(12:24:54 AM) sevenless: EoN: Google is owned by a couple of zionists
(12:25:09 AM) EoN: sevenless: i like how a search engine owned a military communist country
(12:25:14 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: zionists that do nothing to censor even the most rabidly anti-semetic websites
(12:25:22 AM) sevenless: s0n-of-a-gun: sure they do
(12:25:53 AM) eldragon: http://www.thekeen.net/Boy/United_States/Cuban_Missile_Crisis-2.htm
(12:25:54 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: the "jew" search yields plenty of stridently anti-semitic polemicists
(12:26:02 AM) subtitle: [ Cuban Missile Crisis Foto Cuban Missile Crisis Immagini ]
(12:26:03 AM) EoN: this supposed state of military power & harsh communism, got owned by an
(12:26:06 AM) eldragon: "Red October" "no-invasion agreement"
(12:26:12 AM) optimum: sevenless: i never got your opinion on using poisson gee regression for causal inference as relating to aggregated cost data over time in the presence of contagion
(12:26:32 AM) optimum: imho it's not a good idea
(12:26:52 AM) sevenless: optimum: idk... you didn't ask me before
(12:27:00 AM) optimum: although perhaps a pascal distribution would be appropriate
(12:27:14 AM) optimum: sevenless: oh that must have been piphog i asked.. well, what is your opinion?
(12:27:32 AM) shemale-magic: why did hitler pick the jews?
(12:27:53 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: many reasons
(12:28:11 AM) sevenless: optimum: it depends entirely on what your data looks like,if poisson's the most appropriate. i'd be tempted to do some model checking before anything else
(12:28:26 AM) sevenless: negative binomial might be better,for one thing
(12:28:28 AM) ThrobbingPython: did google pull out of china????
(12:28:29 AM) optimum: sevenless: yeah, that's what i figured
(12:28:33 AM) ThrobbingPython: what happened????
(12:28:40 AM) optimum: sevenless: at this point i don't have the data
(12:28:45 AM) sevenless: real data is rarely exactly poisson
(12:29:04 AM) Rei_Murasame: |0827:43| why did hitler pick the jews? <--- because his Pontifical Vatican puppet masters directed him to do so from behind a layer of abstraction
(12:29:12 AM) eldragon: don't forget the "Kennedy-Khrushchev Pact"
(12:29:22 AM) optimum: yeah, i know... i'm not particularly familiar with gee regression
(12:29:30 AM) ThrobbingPython: what happened with google in china???
(12:29:51 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: hitler persecuted the jews because of the anti-judaic legacy of christianity, the prominence of jews in german society, the convenience of scapegoating an internal fifth column to mobilize the state, the xenophobia of german cultural triumphalists, occult mysticism
(12:29:55 AM) Rei_Murasame: the Jew is the eternal strawman and butler scapegoat for the actions of various /other/ groups
(12:30:04 AM) optimum: it looks like an extension of huber-white robust regression to glms
(12:30:04 AM) sevenless: shemale-magic: like america today, jews were a conspicuous elite, which germans could naturally blame after Versailles and while communism was spreading
(12:30:19 AM) Rei_Murasame: if you get caught holding the bag, the MO is always to blame a jew
(12:30:25 AM) johnnywannabe: (12:30:27 AM) Rei_Murasame: it's the catholic way
(12:30:29 AM) sevenless: Rei_Murasame: Jews have always been financial elites in christian nations
(12:30:38 AM) Rei_Murasame: no
(12:31:04 AM) Rei_Murasame: the Jews have been the /frontmen/ of the financial elites that you are told to blame
(12:31:07 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: Rei_Murasame: I take it you haven't read Luther's "On The Jews and Their Lies"
(12:31:08 AM) sevenless: Like in Russia, jews talk about the pogroms, but what they don't say is that the jews worked for the aristocracy.
(12:31:11 AM) optimum: i'm not particularly sure that is actually a good idea with poisson regression
(12:31:18 AM) Rei_Murasame: the real motherfuckers escape every time
(12:31:20 AM) sevenless: the pogroms were popular uprisings
(12:31:34 AM) Rei_Murasame: s0n-of-a-gun: Luther was partially buying into the BS as well
(12:31:35 AM) eldragon: 3) Force an agreement whereby USSR's communist interests in the
(12:31:45 AM) eldragon: Carribean would be preserved via protection of Cuba from US invasion.
(12:31:49 AM) ThrobbingPython: china are the current financial elites that you are told to blame
(12:32:07 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: Rei_Murasame: in case you haven't noticed, Luther is one of Protestantism's most prominent theologians
(12:32:08 AM) sevenless: china, financial elites? They don't even let banks do derivatives trading.
(12:32:22 AM) eldragon: US is fucked their illegal acts on Haiti.
(12:32:30 AM) optimum: for that matter, i've never seen huber-white robust regression used for anything that i would take seriously
(12:32:36 AM) ThrobbingPython: china owns usa and the rest of the world
(12:33:00 AM) Rei_Murasame: s0n-of-a-gun: so?
(12:33:07 AM) johnnywannabe: US owns china :P
(12:33:34 AM) Rei_Murasame: s0n-of-a-gun: Luther was useful, but he was /far/ from perfect
(12:33:38 AM) davidd_: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/12/police_fight_cellphone_recordings/?page=full
(12:33:38 AM) subtitle: [ Police fight cellphone recordings - The Boston Globe ]
(12:34:02 AM) davidd_: luther wanted to rid the catholic church of malpractice
(12:34:09 AM) ThrobbingPython: china, japan and the jews own usa. usa owns nothing, not even their own country :P
(12:34:12 AM) davidd_: instead the church got rid of him
(12:34:18 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: it is only recently that Protestants have become judeophiles
(12:34:37 AM) sevenless: s0n-of-a-gun: partly due to a concerted zionist effort to make this so
(12:34:37 AM) davidd_: s0n-of-a-gun i prefer the term proseliets
(12:34:40 AM) Rei_Murasame: s0n-of-a-gun: plus, the anti-jew position is quite pervasive, a lot of the people who buy into it are people who should know better, or are people who can't see the full picture and what's really at stake
(12:34:49 AM) davidd_: has to do with the book of revelations
(12:34:52 AM) ThrobbingPython: does judeophiles mean they fuck jews?
(12:35:04 AM) optimum: actually, the proper name is "white's heteroscedasticity-consistent estimator" for the non-generalized version
(12:35:12 AM) davidd_: ThrobbingPython bo those are judeosexuals
(12:35:18 AM) optimum: i wouldn't be surprised of fisher did some of the theoretical work (...)
(12:35:22 AM) Rei_Murasame: I'm not advocating judeophilia either, since that in and of itself is bad
(12:35:38 AM) sevenless: optimum: What's wrong with Bayesian inference on a reasonable model? Too big?
(12:35:39 AM) optimum: *if
(12:35:42 AM) ThrobbingPython: oh ok
(12:35:55 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: sevenless: large portions of the dispensationalist movement are funded by Israel PSYOPS
(12:36:02 AM) sevenless: s0n-of-a-gun: yes!
(12:36:06 AM) optimum: sevenless: i don't see why bayesian inference would be required
(12:36:13 AM) shemale-magic: anti jew position is rational for any non jew
(12:36:15 AM) Rei_Murasame: but basically the realistic position that if you want to fight Islamists and christians at the same time, it probably makes sense to co-opt Jews into helping you
(12:36:16 AM) sevenless: optimum: are you just after point estimators?
(12:36:37 AM) eldragon: don't forget it damn US ---> 3) Force an agreement whereby USSR's communist interests in the Carribean would be preserved via protection of Cuba from US invasion.
(12:36:49 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: Rei_Murasame: Islamists have legitimate political grievances as well, we ignore them at our own peril
(12:37:00 AM) optimum: sevenless: no, looking at treatment effects on the costs of crazy homeless people
(12:37:19 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: that said anyone who takes up arms against our soldiers and citizenry have to be dealt with accordingly
(12:37:22 AM) sevenless: http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/157/4/364
(12:37:24 AM) subtitle: [ Statistical Analysis of Correlated Data Using Generalized Estimating Equations: An Orientation -- Hanley et al. 157 (4): 364 -- American Journal of Epidemiology ]
(12:37:45 AM) ThrobbingPython: bbl
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(12:38:17 AM) sevenless: Rei_Murasame: Jews defend Jewish interests, this isn't hard to understand
(12:38:22 AM) optimum: sevenless: i've read that gee estimators don't bootstrap well
(12:38:23 AM) Rei_Murasame: s0n-of-a-gun: it may be too late to really give them a real lasting concession though, since now that the Israelis are parked in the middle of the firing zone, they'll keep fighting
(12:38:42 AM) shemale-magic: NATO should disarm and detooth israel
(12:38:48 AM) shemale-magic: jews have no business having nukes
(12:38:55 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: Rei_Murasame: it is morally incumbent on us to negotiate a peace and provide both states a security guarantee
(12:38:55 AM) shemale-magic: crazy idea if its true
(12:39:01 AM) shemale-magic: kick all democrats outa office
(12:39:03 AM) shemale-magic: vote em out
(12:39:11 AM) shemale-magic: dems tax and spend solutions fail every time
(12:39:12 AM) eldragon: the US invasion on Haiti is not authorized by Cuba, so that Cuba can communicate to Russia that U.S. violated the 1963's Kennedy-Khrushchev pact.
(12:39:19 AM) Rei_Murasame: sevenless: exactly, and if their interest happens to be fight against rabid islamists and rabid christians, then it's possbile to work some kind of deal with them
(12:39:27 AM) shemale-magic: cuba has no ability to authorize anything
(12:39:30 AM) shemale-magic: least of al usa
(12:39:40 AM) optimum: imho crazy homeless people are overpriced
(12:39:50 AM) eldragon: Cuba gets unprotected due to the U.S. invasion in the Caribbean
(12:40:08 AM) Rei_Murasame: s0n-of-a-gun: maybe, I think we should try it just to see what would happen, but I have a feeling that Palestinians will break the agreement anyway
(12:40:21 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: do not underestimate the power of rabid dispensationalist christians, rabid orthodox jewry and rabid pan-Islamists to engulf us all in a total war
(12:40:31 AM) sevenless: optimum: I'd be tempted to do something simpler, probably using random-effects to represent your information structure
(12:40:51 AM) optimum: s0n-of-a-gun: i had to tell a preacher to shut up at a meeting recently, and someone already gunned down a cop
(12:41:25 AM) sevenless: All of the features of GEE seem to be in a good hierarchical model formulation
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(12:41:52 AM) optimum: i'm not too familiar with random effects models..
(12:42:00 AM) eldragon: do you want another "Red January"?
(12:42:14 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: Rei_Murasame: we can handle that as it comes, but a palestinian state is integral to pull the steam out of pan-Islamist jidah
(12:42:21 AM) optimum: sevenless: i'd probably just use a negative binomial glm
(12:42:27 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: jihad*
(12:42:37 AM) ***pupnik is listening to John V. Denson - The American Imperium - How FDR lied the USA into WWII -- 05__LibertyPower_Denson.mp3
(12:42:42 AM) optimum: although a random effects model looks like it might be somewhat more appropriate
(12:42:44 AM) sevenless: optimum: That's fine, but you'll need some way to incorporate population-level date
(12:42:47 AM) sevenless: *data
(12:42:51 AM) Rei_Murasame: s0n-of-a-gun: I can agree there, if they have their own state, they will have less excuses to use
(12:43:00 AM) shemale-magic: capitalism is simple
(12:43:04 AM) sevenless: optimum: Particularly if your correlation matrix is off-diagonal.
(12:43:09 AM) shemale-magic: produce and sell
(12:43:14 AM) shemale-magic: people will sort good from bad
(12:43:17 AM) shemale-magic: :)
(12:43:21 AM) shemale-magic: bad will wither and die
(12:43:30 AM) optimum: sevenless: what do you mean by population-level data?
(12:43:34 AM) pupnik: indeed the free market is an *ecology*
(12:43:55 AM) optimum: the correlation matrix will certainly be off diagonal
(12:43:55 AM) sevenless: optimum: a random-effects model is a compromise between individual-level and population-level effects
(12:44:24 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: brb
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(12:44:40 AM) sevenless: for example, let's say we're looking at US election forecasting. each state has an individual preference level for the candidate. but nationwide swings are also important. the final model will be a compromise.
(12:44:55 AM) Rei_Murasame: sevenless: the question I'd ask /you/ though, is how come every time there is a new group that looks promising, it gets infiltrated by nefarious individuals who call for antisemitism? I heard that in the USA they actually have had instances where entire Nazi demonstrations have been operated, set up, and run, /by/ the FBI, just to create reactions
(12:45:04 AM) Rei_Murasame: sure that'd look suspicious
(12:45:17 AM) sevenless: Rei_Murasame: I don't know why I should know more about this than anyone else
(12:45:41 AM) sevenless: Have you seen the paper by Obama's adviser, Sunstein, calling for that kind of warfare against "conspiracy theorists"
(12:45:46 AM) Rei_Murasame: because you're the one doing the most anti-jew stuff, but I'm saying to you that it's a setup
(12:45:55 AM) sevenless: Rei_Murasame: I'm not against jews qua jews
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(12:46:27 AM) sevenless: I'm against the racism of our elites driving policy, which happens to be most problematic when it's jewish racism
(12:46:44 AM) sevenless: i'll show you the paper
(12:46:49 AM) Rei_Murasame: how problematic exactly?
(12:46:58 AM) davidd_: jewish racism
(12:47:12 AM) Rei_Murasame: I mean in the grand chessboard
(12:47:30 AM) davidd_: well the iraq war wouldnt have happened
(12:47:38 AM) Rei_Murasame: it wouldn't?
(12:47:46 AM) sevenless: http://agonist.org/joaquin/20100118/the_witch_who_was_made_of_wood_part_1
(12:47:47 AM) subtitle: [ The Witch who was Made of Wood (Part #1) | The Agonist ]
(12:47:47 AM) optimum: sevenless: i'm going to have to read up on random effects models
(12:47:56 AM) Rei_Murasame: but they had that drawn up from ages ago anyway
(12:47:58 AM) davidd_: the war against iraq was pushed mainly by jewish thinktanks
(12:48:15 AM) sevenless: optimum: Gelman and Hill, 2007 is a good introductory exposition
(12:48:17 AM) Rei_Murasame: and I have to again point out, the USA actually owns Israel at present
(12:48:23 AM) davidd_: saddam supported terrorists (that were like al-quada)
(12:48:36 AM) sevenless: davidd_: absolutely correct on the jewish think tanks
(12:48:43 AM) davidd_: namely, saddam supported familys of suicide bombers
(12:48:46 AM) Rei_Murasame: so "Jewish thinktank" actually = American butlers
(12:48:46 AM) eldragon: undear US, you're fucked thanks to your Kennedy-Khrushchev pact.
(12:48:51 AM) davidd_: palastinian suicide bombers
(12:49:10 AM) sevenless: davidd_: more broadly Israel wanted to destroy and reshape the middle east
(12:49:11 AM) Rei_Murasame: I can't understand why this isn't immediately obvious
(12:49:12 AM) davidd_: so that is where the "saddam supports terror" line came from
(12:49:24 AM) davidd_: Rei_Murasame aipac!
(12:49:29 AM) Rei_Murasame: jews don't run anything, they just get set up as the butlers
(12:49:39 AM) davidd_: in gulfwar 1
(12:49:41 AM) sevenless: davidd_: the plan was for iraq, iran and syria to all be invaded followed by saudi arabia and egypt
(12:49:43 AM) davidd_: remember that Rei_Murasame ?
(12:49:49 AM) davidd_: stfu about butlers
(12:49:58 AM) sevenless: showing a truly monumental level of hubris and chutzpah
(12:50:00 AM) Rei_Murasame: -- great example, AIPAC doesn't have any real power, they can only request what the USA was already going to grant them
(12:50:11 AM) sevenless: if you remember a certain mysterious presentation in 2003
(12:50:17 AM) Rei_Murasame: because Israel is in infinite debt
(12:50:20 AM) Rei_Murasame: to the USA
(12:50:20 AM) davidd_: Rei_Murasame you are not listening
(12:50:27 AM) Rei_Murasame: or did you lot miss that part?
(12:50:36 AM) sevenless: "Iraq is the tactical pivot, Saudi Arabia is the strategic pivot, Egypt is the prize"
(12:50:36 AM) davidd_: you are not listening
(12:50:48 AM) eldragon: US CAN'T install BASES on the Caribbean
(12:50:48 AM) Rei_Murasame: you aren't listening to me either
(12:51:00 AM) davidd_: he everybody
(12:51:07 AM) davidd_: Rei_Murasame thinks jews should be butlers
(12:51:10 AM) davidd_: to the americans
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(12:51:22 AM) Rei_Murasame: no, I'm saying that's what they've BECOME
(12:51:34 AM) Rei_Murasame: because the USA bought their entire gaddamned country
(12:51:38 AM) davidd_: regardless of that
(12:51:40 AM) Rei_Murasame: and no one noticed
(12:51:49 AM) davidd_: without israel no 2nd gulfwar
(12:51:53 AM) Rei_Murasame: USA is the enemy
(12:52:01 AM) Rei_Murasame: why can't anyone see it?
(12:52:02 AM) sevenless: davidd_: no 9/11
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(12:52:18 AM) sevenless: Rei_Murasame: Britain isn't a nation, it's a US aircraft carrier
(12:52:28 AM) sevenless: You should fucking fight for independence
(12:52:30 AM) davidd_: Rei_Murasame i am not denying the USA is the grand culprit
(12:52:42 AM) Rei_Murasame: okay, but that's not related to the topic at hand, sevenless
(12:52:47 AM) eldragon: Obama and Hellary Clinton administration, you're fucked in violation to your Kennedy-Khrushchev pact.
(12:52:48 AM) sevenless: lol@brits hating the EU when their country is full of US troops
(12:52:48 AM) davidd_: but neither should you be denying how israel is locked into this
(12:52:56 AM) Rei_Murasame: I agree totally though, USA has us on the ropes
(12:53:00 AM) Rei_Murasame: since 1945
(12:53:09 AM) eldragon: that's from 1963.
(12:53:11 AM) sevenless: Rei_Murasame: britain needs a resistance a la the IRA
(12:53:18 AM) Rei_Murasame: no, that won't work
(12:53:29 AM) Rei_Murasame: we have to play it very carefully
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(12:53:36 AM) sevenless: How else are you going to throw out les americains
(12:53:43 AM) sevenless: It's going to have to come down to force
(12:53:48 AM) Rei_Murasame: and let them basically go into sovereign default, within 30yrs
(12:53:49 AM) davidd_: just support china in the upcoming war
(12:53:53 AM) Rei_Murasame: no
(12:53:59 AM) Rei_Murasame: USA-China is one entity
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(12:54:09 AM) sevenless: Heh. If only
(12:54:11 AM) Rei_Murasame: if you forget that, they'll beat us again
(12:54:22 AM) Rei_Murasame: last time it went that way
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(12:54:43 AM) Rei_Murasame: and at present:
(12:54:49 AM) Rei_Murasame: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2009/12/04/superfusion <--- China-USA
(12:54:50 AM) subtitle: [ Superfusion - by Zachary Karabell | Foreign Policy ]
(12:54:55 AM) davidd_: Rei_Murasame grandfather bush broke the "trading with the enemys act" to supply hitler with more metal for his warmachine
(12:54:59 AM) davidd_: did you know that?
(12:55:05 AM) Rei_Murasame: they're even gloating now
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(12:55:09 AM) Rei_Murasame: -- yep
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(12:55:20 AM) GrifficDEATH: good morning all
(12:55:22 AM) Rei_Murasame: they also funded the USSR and China longer and harder though
(12:55:55 AM) EoN: Jobim > you
(12:55:57 AM) Rei_Murasame: via various tricks after WWII
(12:56:07 AM) sevenless: Multinationals have existed for centuries and have never prevented national rivalries from taking their course before
(12:57:03 AM) sevenless: There's a lot of poorly thought through soft-leftist claims for corporations superceding states, but there's never been anything even as powerful as the dutch east india company in the last century
(12:57:07 AM) davidd_: "Even as they speak of interdependence as a fact, Chinese and Americans continue to see themselves locked in a great power rivalry."
(12:57:10 AM) Rei_Murasame: yeah, but this time they've got it really cunningly designed, I think -- the fact that they have China /pegged/ to the USA means they are locked together economically now
(12:57:14 AM) davidd_: from your article Rei_Murasame
(12:57:16 AM) Rei_Murasame: yep
(12:57:32 AM) Rei_Murasame: but don't take their opinion seriously on that part
(12:57:40 AM) Rei_Murasame: they really are not fighting or rivalling
(12:57:46 AM) Rei_Murasame: it has been on purpose
(12:58:12 AM) sevenless: "The likely outcome? Rather than recognizing that this old framework is flawed, Americans remain wedded to it, and contest the rise of China every step of the way. The outcome will not be good. Rather than hobbling China, the United States may end up hobbling itself."
(12:58:15 AM) Rei_Murasame: no one accidentally wanders into economic union by fiat
(12:58:24 AM) sevenless: So even this (very flawed) article claims the US and China will be rivals
(12:58:33 AM) Rei_Murasame: - yep, but again don't take that part seriously
(12:58:47 AM) eldragon: http://race.eserver.org/oppose-an-haiti-invasion.html
(12:58:48 AM) davidd_: Rei_Murasame mutually benificial holds only if you assume america will pay of the debts it has towards china
(12:58:49 AM) subtitle: [ Race & Ethnicity: Why I Oppose an Haiti Invasion ]
(12:58:49 AM) Rei_Murasame: the only part that's relevant is that they are one economy now
(12:58:57 AM) sevenless: I'd take it more seriously than any claim that corporations are more powerful than the first rank of nations
(12:58:59 AM) shemale-magic: nuke israel
(12:59:00 AM) davidd_: i am expecting those debts will lead to WWiii
(12:59:03 AM) Rei_Murasame: ah, but there is no debt
(12:59:10 AM) Rei_Murasame: it's one economy
(12:59:17 AM) DrHaiti: hi
(12:59:20 AM) davidd_: happy thinking that is
(12:59:30 AM) Rei_Murasame: no, that's acrually worse imo
(12:59:36 AM) davidd_: you think china doesnt want that money
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(1:00:01 AM) Rei_Murasame: if there were debt and the two of them went into hell mode, then that'd actually take them both down
(1:00:03 AM) slimjimflim: EoN: what do you know about antonio carlos jobim?
(1:00:04 AM) Rei_Murasame: but as it stands, they will not do that
(1:00:14 AM) davidd_: Rei_Murasame i hope you are right
(1:00:18 AM) davidd_: but dont expect it
(1:00:19 AM) Rei_Murasame: they will remain united and devalue aggessively
(1:00:25 AM) davidd_: brbr
(1:00:27 AM) davidd_: in 10 min
(1:00:30 AM) Rei_Murasame: -- no, I /wish/ I were wrong
(1:00:38 AM) Rei_Murasame: my scenario is worse than yours
(1:01:04 AM) Rei_Murasame: since if they keep doing what I'm describing they /could/ even win for a long time
(1:01:25 AM) Rei_Murasame: by agressively devaluing and exporting inflation forever
(1:01:47 AM) Rei_Murasame: and then everyone must sell to USA-PRC since they are so big
(1:01:52 AM) optimum: sevenless: basically the idea is to run a linear model on all the data sans control information and then to run one across control on the residuals?
(1:01:55 AM) Rei_Murasame: therefore we all end up devaluing too
(1:02:03 AM) Rei_Murasame: and they get away with it
(1:02:07 AM) ***pupnik orders The Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization and the Terror-Famine (12 November 1987) von Robert Conquest
(1:02:19 AM) Rei_Murasame: and if we don't, USA and China are the two biggest armies
(1:02:22 AM) eldragon: the "Red January" is NEAR!
(1:02:26 AM) Rei_Murasame: so we are in the pincer
(1:02:28 AM) sevenless: optimum: Random effects? You're really wanting to compromise between both extremes.
(1:02:45 AM) Rei_Murasame: that's why Rockefeller /loves/ China
(1:02:45 AM) optimum: sevenless: yeah, is that how it works?
(1:02:50 AM) shemale-magic: mises.org
(1:02:51 AM) sevenless: optimum: But ideally, you'd do inference, so you don't get fooled by parameter modes.
(1:02:54 AM) shemale-magic: read up commies
(1:02:56 AM) shemale-magic: ;)
(1:02:59 AM) slimjimflim: as do the rothschilds
(1:03:10 AM) slimjimflim: Rei_Murasame: check your pms
(1:03:26 AM) casa- [n=casa@212.49.85.2] entered the room.
(1:03:31 AM) casa-: hm
(1:03:40 AM) ***casa- is advertising his safaris
(1:03:47 AM) ***casa- doses on caffeine
(1:04:01 AM) casa-: any tricks for SEO?
(1:04:15 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: all kinds of tricks
(1:04:24 AM) slimjimflim: where should i begin
(1:04:29 AM) s0n-of-a-gun [n=s0n-of-a@unaffiliated/s0n-of-a-gun] entered the room.
(1:04:34 AM) casa-: not digg
(1:04:35 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: yep, I'm still holding out a part hope that the Nomuras will break the gridlock and create a rift
(1:04:37 AM) casa-: somewwhere else
(1:04:38 AM) slimjimflim: there's always the art of picking a proper domain name
(1:04:41 AM) pupnik: wow, the bookstores are flooded with liars and lies
(1:04:45 AM) casa-: xtremesafaris
(1:04:50 AM) slimjimflim: Rei_Murasame: nomuras?
(1:04:51 AM) optimum: random effects models seem pretty reasonable
(1:05:00 AM) sevenless: optimum: it's the bayesian way.
(1:05:05 AM) casa-: and i'm thinking of affiliating with extreme pizza company in CA
(1:05:06 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: Nomura is basically Japan's version of Rothschild
(1:05:06 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: don't overlook digg
(1:05:22 AM) casa-: i'm already doing digging of myself with ym friends
(1:05:24 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: you want to have your link on as many social-networking sites as possible
(1:05:29 AM) ***sevenless baptizes optimum in the name of Bayes
(1:05:32 AM) casa-: and facebooking
(1:05:41 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: yea, that's all important
(1:05:41 AM) eldragon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Grenada
(1:05:43 AM) subtitle: [ Invasion of Grenada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]
(1:05:44 AM) eldragon: US administration violated twice the 1963's Kennedy-Khrushchev pact.
(1:05:47 AM) casa-: yeah, targeted sites, and groups
(1:05:52 AM) sevenless: I have been to Grenada
(1:06:01 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: but they are acting like they might be looking for the exit ramp marked "dissent", so it could get hilarious if they suddenly set off a new round of conflict
(1:06:03 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: some of the best sites to get links from are .edu and .gov
(1:06:22 AM) casa-: slimjimflim i wonder if i got /.ed if i added a geotagging on my site for hotels and stuff
(1:06:34 AM) optimum: sevenless: i've had lunch with rubin and gelman simultaneously
(1:06:41 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: basically if USA-PRC trips up at all, it could change the game a lot
(1:06:42 AM) sevenless: optimum: that's hot
(1:06:44 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: i'm not sure about the value of that tld
(1:06:50 AM) casa-: hm
(1:06:55 AM) casa-: and travel forums
(1:06:58 AM) slimjimflim: Rei_Murasame: hmm
(1:07:05 AM) sevenless: optimum: gelman is obviously a god at this stuff. i love his rescaling tricks
(1:07:12 AM) casa-: creating a dummy user who carelessly mentions myself
(1:07:29 AM) casa-: not too obviously though
(1:07:39 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: yea, be sure to use different usernames each time
(1:07:45 AM) slimjimflim: otherwise google will get wise
(1:08:01 AM) GrifficDEATH: google sucks
(1:08:08 AM) slimjimflim: and of course, when possible, digg other sites too
(1:08:13 AM) slimjimflim: ...relevant ones
(1:08:16 AM) slimjimflim: digg, facebook etc.
(1:08:22 AM) casa-: i'm using my site's name for official posts, and other "jim, james, jon etc" for comments
(1:08:22 AM) casa-: yep, making friends
(1:08:28 AM) slimjimflim: get involved in the communities as realistically as possible
(1:08:37 AM) slimjimflim: so as not to look like a robot
(1:08:40 AM) casa-: 200 friends are better than 200 000 clicks
(1:08:52 AM) slimjimflim: idk about that per se
(1:09:03 AM) slimjimflim: but 200 friends isn't a bad thing to have
(1:09:24 AM) slimjimflim: that reminds me, i wonder how my facebook page is doing
(1:09:29 AM) casa-: yeah, the biggest guru is the one who undewrstands which click buys the product
(1:09:31 AM) johnnywannabe: you guys have software for calc ing?
(1:10:24 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: sure, but i think most of those clicks come from search engines
(1:10:24 AM) optimum: sevenless: is there some kind of cool way i can balance the data so that the treatment is not correlated with the other independent variables?
(1:11:29 AM) davidd_: ba
(1:11:40 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: http://www.bis.gov.uk/lord-mandelson-japan-and-britain-in-business-at-a-turning-point <--- also check this, this was pretty weird as well
(1:11:42 AM) subtitle: [ Podcast: Japan and Britain in business: at a turning point? – Department for Business, Innovation and Skills ]
(1:13:10 AM) Rei_Murasame: I don't want to make any predictions yet on this one
(1:13:11 AM) epiphyte [n=sly@unaffiliated/epiphyte] entered the room.
(1:13:32 AM) slimjimflim: Rei_Murasame: are you self-employed?
(1:13:36 AM) davidd_: how do you feel about google vs china
(1:13:58 AM) casa-: slimjimflim yep they do. Most unfortunately still use Gooogle for everything. I'm adding more pages on the site itself, some Google products, Google group, Google maps tags, and Digg galleries
(1:14:01 AM) davidd_: hillary clinton speaking on behalf of google, if a minister speaks on your behalf, you have made it
(1:14:04 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: nope
(1:14:12 AM) slimjimflim: what do you do?
(1:14:23 AM) casa-: travel on this site
(1:14:32 AM) casa-: another site is website making
(1:14:37 AM) casa-: and another sells tickets
(1:14:49 AM) casa-: travel obviously is the easiest
(1:14:57 AM) Rei_Murasame: slimjimflim: I'm a sysadmin, I'm not supposed to talk about what I do though, due to the kind of folks we sell stuff to
(1:15:14 AM) slimjimflim: oic
(1:15:16 AM) casa-: i want to get more hits so i can do sth instead of relying on work other people have sourced out for me
(1:15:23 AM) Rei_Murasame: I always get told off for flapping my mouth, lol
(1:15:52 AM) slimjimflim: casa-: yea, people get pushed around by advertising pretty easily
(1:15:53 AM) casa-: clicks clicks clicks lead to buys buys buys (if the clicks are done by the right demographic)
(1:16:23 AM) GrifficDEATH: im up to 85 gigs of stolen mp3s and movies... i think im going to jail
(1:16:26 AM) slimjimflim: at the same time, google does offer a pretty good product
(1:16:51 AM) slimjimflim: aside from the possibilty/fact that they store all your data and give it to the government
(1:16:51 AM) shemale-magic: nah
(1:16:53 AM) shemale-magic: google sucks
(1:17:01 AM) pirate_sephiroth left the room (quit: "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut. -- Albert Ein).
(1:17:01 AM) drhodes: GrifficDEATH: did the people you stole them from upset?
(1:17:06 AM) shemale-magic: and they are snaking tax money and digitizing books they dont own
(1:17:07 AM) slimjimflim: shemale-magic: what search engine do you use?
(1:17:09 AM) ***drhodes learns2 talk reall gud
(1:17:15 AM) GrifficDEATH: nope im seeding
(1:17:17 AM) shemale-magic: google are new microsft and should be scrutinized by justic dept
(1:17:26 AM) shemale-magic: I do not like them getting tax money without votes
(1:17:29 AM) slimjimflim: shemale-magic: snaking tax money?
(1:17:31 AM) shemale-magic: bing
(1:17:33 AM) shemale-magic: ya
(1:17:35 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: goodnight folks.
(1:17:38 AM) shemale-magic: they are getting tax money in many ways
(1:17:42 AM) davidd_: google got big that fast
(1:17:43 AM) Rei_Murasame: "The messages that Japan is sending – its high profile rejection of economic nationalism, its commitment to openness – could not be more important against the backdrop of global recession." <-- they must all know that this is a lie, he says "internationalism" so many times in this speech, but he knows he's asking for a bilateral agreement
(1:17:44 AM) s0n-of-a-gun: be well
(1:17:46 AM) pupnik: Just prior to the outbreak of world war 2, Stalin murdered somewhere around 11 to 12 million people.
(1:17:53 AM) pupnik: well in the years prior
(1:17:55 AM) slimjimflim: shemale-magic: yea i'm not a fan of taxpayer money going to private companies at all
(1:17:56 AM) Hal-Horn: Rei_Murasame: Holy shit, I'm about 12 hours away from signing my oath of service to the Queen. Did a practice run today, that shit was crazy
(1:17:59 AM) pupnik: Hmm
(1:18:01 AM) slimjimflim: not even small ones
(1:18:04 AM) pupnik: Not a nice neighbor to have
(1:18:24 AM) davidd_: pupnik if you count "dying from hunger" as being murdered
(1:18:35 AM) davidd_: typical propaganda stuff
(1:18:36 AM) Rei_Murasame: Hal-Horn: will it be videotaped or anything?
(1:18:39 AM) slimjimflim: pupnik: this is true
(1:18:42 AM) Hal-Horn: Rei_Murasame: "I swear to well and truly serve Queen Elizabeth II, her lawful heirs and successors, and to resist her enemies, ..."
(1:18:50 AM) Hal-Horn: Rei_Murasame: My family might be getting video
(1:18:52 AM) davidd_: bush signed more than 50 deathpenalties
(1:19:00 AM) davidd_: bush killed retarded people
(1:19:01 AM) Rei_Murasame: Hal-Horn: sweet! o.o
(1:19:08 AM) Hal-Horn: Rei_Murasame: Would be about seventy years before I could upload it though
(1:19:08 AM) slimjimflim: davidd the hunger was caused by soviet troops removing food from peasants
(1:19:15 AM) Rei_Murasame: Hal-Horn: I think I'm a little envious
(1:19:24 AM) Rei_Murasame: lol
(1:19:35 AM) Hal-Horn: Rei_Murasame: :D, I'm out-monarchisting the Tory
(1:19:39 AM) shemale-magic: capitalism sorts it all out
(1:19:46 AM) shemale-magic: mass produce housing and doctors
(1:19:46 AM) davidd_: slimjimflim so how many of the 2 million that died in iraq over the last 7 years are because of bush
(1:19:50 AM) Hal-Horn: Rei_Murasame: You should trot down to a recruiting office and check out your options
(1:19:53 AM) shemale-magic: mass produce all shortages
(1:19:58 AM) shemale-magic: as delinated by what peolpe will pay for
(1:20:05 AM) shemale-magic: end insuarnace bank and other governemtn fuckups
(1:20:06 AM) davidd_: did bush kill 2 million iraqis
(1:20:17 AM) shemale-magic: lower price of government
(1:20:21 AM) slimjimflim: davidd_ he helped
(1:20:23 AM) shemale-magic: and let propsperity reign
(1:20:30 AM) davidd_: or are only the deaths that were done by us soldiers to blame on him
(1:20:38 AM) drhodes: what is "signing my oath of service to the Queen"
(1:20:39 AM) Rei_Murasame: Hal-Horn: lol, I don't want to end up stuck in some odd position though
(1:20:41 AM) drhodes: Hal-Horn: ^
(1:20:51 AM) davidd_: slimjimflim i am not excusing stalin, dont get me wrong
(1:20:55 AM) johnnywannabe: signing my oath, f the queen
(1:21:00 AM) davidd_: i am just speaking up against the propaganda counting
(1:21:05 AM) slimjimflim: davidd_ you're excusing bush instead?
(1:21:16 AM) Hal-Horn: drhodes: Sorry, meant swearing. And we have to sign a bit of paper after, though
(1:21:18 AM) shemale-magic: bush economy great
(1:21:24 AM) shemale-magic: governemtn funny money casued hosuign nuke
(1:21:28 AM) slimjimflim: davidd_ regardless of who you want to blame, the soviets killed those people
(1:21:30 AM) shemale-magic: fed freddy fannie giving money to losers
(1:21:35 AM) drhodes: yes, but will you be wiping her bum, or what?
(1:21:35 AM) shemale-magic: bush kept usa saef for 8
(1:21:36 AM) slimjimflim: and stalin was the head of the soviets
(1:21:39 AM) shemale-magic: obama 8 months lol
(1:21:41 AM) shemale-magic: obmaa fialing
(1:21:43 AM) shemale-magic: eocnomy shitty
(1:21:44 AM) slimjimflim: so that makes him pretty responsible
(1:21:49 AM) shemale-magic: and kenynesian economics on the urn
(1:21:49 AM) Rei_Murasame: omg, lol, actually, this article is gold
(1:21:51 AM) ***drhodes boggles
(1:21:53 AM) davidd_: slimjimflim the people died of hunger
(1:22:03 AM) slimjimflim: the soviets caused the hunger directly
(1:22:05 AM) Hal-Horn: drhodes: Nah, officering in the Royal Australian Air Force
(1:22:17 AM) shemale-magic: phd in princeton harvard etc all keynesian and keynes an idiot, and not 1 saw housign nuek coming
(1:22:17 AM) drhodes: Oh. right.
(1:22:18 AM) slimjimflim: they starved political adversaries and gave their food to their cronies
(1:22:19 AM) davidd_: you can not prove that on that scale
(1:22:23 AM) shemale-magic: and bailouts wha tthe fuck
(1:22:25 AM) Hal-Horn: I'll shut up now, because I already said goodbye to the channel and I dont want a huge shitstorm of anti-military
(1:22:25 AM) shemale-magic: airlines
(1:22:29 AM) Rei_Murasame: here's the keyword guys, for the next cycle - "advanced manufacturing"
(1:22:30 AM) shemale-magic: illegal immigrants
(1:22:38 AM) shemale-magic: and AMA keeping numebr of doctors low
(1:22:41 AM) slimjimflim: yea davidd_ there's huge bodies of evidence, let me get you a link
(1:22:42 AM) shemale-magic: need to ams sproduce doctors
(1:22:47 AM) shemale-magic: make 30million mroe docotrs
(1:22:54 AM) shemale-magic: docotr is colege degree in england
(1:22:56 AM) davidd_: bush is also directly responsible for the violence that resulted
(1:23:18 AM) shemale-magic: shit maek zillino fo them and drive down health costrs by making law that admin and insurance and legal can nyl be 3% of med costs 97% to pay doc !
(1:23:20 AM) shemale-magic: nah
(1:23:24 AM) shemale-magic: bush was awesome
(1:23:25 AM) davidd_: slimjimflim i dont care about the link
(1:23:27 AM) shemale-magic: we need bush back!

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