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single payer and free software.
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[04:45] lovely
[04:45] if only everyone would get rational
[04:45] stop giving $$ to loer things
[04:45] looosah
[04:46] [Quotes of the $TIME_PERIOD: "I'm a gay catholic middle eastern republican" -- Mulvane]
[04:46] lol
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[04:49] capitalism
[04:49] freedom
[04:55] those are such overloaded terms I'm not even willing to comment
[04:58] its 5am and Im hungery
[04:58] hmmmm
[04:59] hey are you american?
[04:59] anyone knows who is from india and available for freebsd talk at FUDcon pune ..??apparently they dont have booths at FUDcon but they asked for proposing talk ..if anyone knows someone from india or interested let me know..:)
[04:59] because as an american I look down on rest of stugglisng mostly communsits countries
[04:59] I'm German
[05:00] intersting
[05:00] Im irish and austrian german
[05:00] hows the health care?
[05:00] long line? or just fine?
[05:01] health care here is a LOT better than in the States
[05:01] I've personally witnessed both
[05:05] so its free right?
[05:05] I have heard prevenative care also helps avoid problems
[05:06] is porn on the net illegal in germany?
[05:06] is porstitution illegal?
[05:06] does the vat make it impossible to have a startup company?
[05:07] prostitution is legal
[05:07] did german bank avoid 2008 meltdown?
[05:07] there were quite a lot of banks involved in international deals
[05:07] this is globalized stuff now
[05:07] pandzilla: If you're german you're a dirty commie!
[05:07] banks so outa control
[05:07] health care isn't strictly free
[05:07] you do pay for it
[05:07] well I think any non american is deeply more commnuist by miseducation than american
[05:08] you pay?
[05:08] but everyone does and it's essentially socialized
[05:08] yes
[05:08] how?
[05:08] so there's public and private health care
[05:08] and the public providers are required to accept everyone
[05:08] gavino: what do you mean by that?
[05:08] say need pennicillin for strep throat
[05:08] or some antibiotic
[05:08] yeah
[05:08] only americans would believe 'communist' is actually an insult or a derogatory term
[05:09] mux: Well, yes and no to that, I'd say.
[05:09] russians and freedom lovers world over fear and hate communism
[05:09] fascism is communism
[05:09] mux: But if you say socialist instead, it's quite different
[05:09] mux: what I find disturbing is that 'liberal' is a derogative term these days
[05:09] "fascism is communism" ?
[05:09] see? they have no idea what they're talking about
[05:09] pandzilla: ultra-liberal should be though :-P
[05:09] see non ameicans are miseducated
[05:09] gavino: Isn't the communist party russias second largest?
[05:10] waht erupoeans say fascism is waht americans mean when we say communism
[05:10] government power run amok
[05:10] chrisphonk: well yes.... but I'm not talking about socialist, but about communist
[05:10] the people who compare Obama with Hitler really need to read a book
[05:10] inside deals with cronies
[05:10] russia knows well why communism is bad
[05:10] I know russains and they LOVE USA
[05:10] fasicsm/communism is scary and evil to me
[05:10] omg can you be any more stupid?
[05:10] to american socialism.fascism commnuism are same
[05:10] mux: Fair point, it's just that saying you're a communist in sweden would be quite controversial, and people still connect communism to the soviet union in most of central europe.
[05:11] that should explain all
[05:11] chrisphonk: amen to that
[05:11] sweden is massive debt fail economy
[05:11] gavino: and the US isn't? :P
[05:11] gavino: it doesn't explain shit; you don't know the meanings of those terms quite obviously. it's not about different people using different words to mean the same things. just open a damn dictionary
[05:11] mux: I'm guessing he's trolling/exaggerating
[05:11] http://harmful.cat-v.org/society/sweden
[05:11] no
[05:11] I am undersating things
[05:12] chrisphonk: I fear he isn't
[05:12] you are miseduated non american
[05:12] see? they're scary like that
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[05:12] your miseducation makes you have irrational beliefs
[05:12] heh
[05:12] mux is about as American as you can get
[05:12] and serves his country
[05:12] id bet not
[05:12] i bet hes a democrat
[05:12] my english spelling is better than yours, yet I'm a french guy; I also have a better understanding of the meaning of a few english words it seems, so calling me "uneducated" is just funny and ironic.
[05:12] aka fascsit
[05:12] :P
[05:13] mux: damn you, I wanted to troll a little
[05:13] hehe
[05:13] I am published author and way beyond anyone here in understanding english.
[05:13] and economics
[05:13] which I hold a degree in
[05:13] omg
[05:13] not to mention its my hobby
[05:13] gavino: But during your stay in sweden, what made you think it was undemocratic? If you believe what the link you sent says.
[05:13] the mere fact that you're stating here that you are beyond anyone in here without knowing half the people you're talking to just goes to show you're a moron
[05:13] socialism./fascism/communism are allsame, I cant explain it any more simply
[05:13] thats the core
[05:13] no they're not
[05:13] yes they are
[05:13] they're radically different
[05:14] especially fascism
[05:14] no they are not
[05:14] gavino: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
[05:14] nop
[05:14] OPEN A DICTIONARY
[05:14] wikipedia is not a source of reliabel info
[05:14] how much more wrong can one be?!?
[05:14] why dont you
[05:14] no i am right
[05:14] you are miseducated
[05:14] because I already know that fasism isn't the same thing at all
[05:14] socialism/fascism/communism are all when government is too big
[05:14] gavino: So what you mean is that communism/socialism and fascism is collective based ideolgies, unstead of individual based ones?
[05:14] and control people not vice versa
[05:15] you are a total moron and your ignorance is so infuriating that I'd fucking smash you in the face if I had the chance to be physically near you
[05:15] for exaplme 2008 debt problem not caused by wall st
[05:15] but by government finance
[05:15] feddy fannie fed giving 0% laons they shoudl not have created outa thign air
[05:15] fascism is about a government imposing its views on the people by force; those views could be quite anything.
[05:15] socialims is communism is fascism
[05:15] it is not the same thing as communism.
[05:15] the way out is freedom
[05:15] free tade
[05:15] for instance, the nazi government was a fascist one
[05:15] vigilance agaisnt governmetn finance