(8:26:39 PM) teurastaja: our current government is the conservative party (8:26:46 PM) topgun21: xjr sbin/fix-xorg give command not found error (8:26:48 PM) the_rat_god: capitalism and freedom make avg perosn rich (8:26:53 PM) the_rat_god: much richer than planned economy (8:26:55 PM) the_rat_god: by far (8:26:59 PM) the_rat_god: not even close (8:27:11 PM) the_rat_god: there is no such thing as conservative (8:27:20 PM) the_rat_god: there is capitalism and fascism/socialism/communism (8:27:22 PM) teurastaja: what do you think of northern europe? (8:27:32 PM) the_rat_god: failing (8:27:34 PM) the_rat_god: slowly (8:27:38 PM) the_rat_god: now faster with greece (8:28:03 PM) alucard1211: lets all be communists hehe:-p (8:28:27 PM) teurastaja: conservative party, liberal party, neo-democratic party, etc, etc... (8:28:49 PM) topgun21 left the room (quit: Quit: leaving). (8:28:50 PM) teurastaja: we have place for newer parties (8:29:04 PM) the_rat_god: capitalism would be good for most of europe to adopt (8:29:12 PM) the_rat_god: but they cant make intellecual jump (8:29:13 PM) alucard1211: why (8:29:16 PM) the_rat_god: cant admit they were wrong (8:29:19 PM) the_rat_god: I dont know why (8:29:32 PM) alucard1211: why dont ya know (8:29:54 PM) teurastaja: because you are stuck with that idea (8:29:59 PM) xjd: when is it likely that 9.0 will be relased? (8:30:17 PM) bankai_: xjd: when it's ready (8:30:47 PM) xjd: any reason to wait for it, or should I just install 8.2 and upgrade whenever it comes? (8:31:02 PM) bankai_: depends if you're in a rush or not (8:31:21 PM) the_rat_god: europe could be richer (8:31:27 PM) the_rat_god: but they cant admit they were wrong (8:31:29 PM) the_rat_god: :) (8:31:44 PM) teurastaja: dont tell me your country isnt going bad when our dollar is steadier and yours is droping (8:31:54 PM) alucard1211: xjd: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Releng/9.0TODO (8:32:16 PM) gg7 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 258 seconds). (8:32:17 PM) teurastaja: who cant pay its deficits? (8:32:42 PM) bankai_: 2011-11-13 is the forecast for 9.0 (8:33:03 PM) bankai_: there is an off-topic freebsd channel, you know!!!! (8:33:15 PM) the_rat_god: democrats (8:33:16 PM) the_rat_god: lol (8:33:23 PM) the_rat_god: obama is being too european (8:33:24 PM) the_rat_god: lol (8:33:27 PM) teurastaja: if we keep your philosophy all money goes to china so we should immitate them (8:33:29 PM) the_rat_god: need to cut government spending (8:33:32 PM) the_rat_god: I am republican (8:33:33 PM) xjd: okey.. and it should be painess to upgrade 8.2 to 9.0, right? (8:33:55 PM) bankai_: painless? it's not too difficult (8:34:12 PM) xjd: I have an OpenBSD partition with a single OpenBSD diskslice.. can I read it without problems with FreeBSD? (8:34:13 PM) bankai_: might just take a while if you're compiling from src (8:34:59 PM) teurastaja: spending for what? army? companies? (8:35:11 PM) the_rat_god: less pain if move data (8:35:13 PM) the_rat_god: nuke box (8:35:15 PM) the_rat_god: install 9 (8:35:16 PM) teurastaja: companies should self-sustain (8:35:18 PM) the_rat_god: move data back (8:35:23 PM) the_rat_god: simplicity itself (8:35:24 PM) the_rat_god: :) (8:35:35 PM) bankai_: xjd: OpenBSD and FreeBSD use different versions of UFS, so perhaps - i haven't tried for a long time (8:35:37 PM) alucard1211: a upgrade button would be simple 2 (8:35:37 PM) the_rat_god: governmetn should stop making too many dumb rules (8:35:38 PM) alucard1211: :-p (8:35:39 PM) the_rat_god: :) (8:36:28 PM) alucard1211: but we wouldnt want simple here would we (8:36:30 PM) alucard1211: :-p (8:36:59 PM) teurastaja: governments should clean up old laws and make an constraint-based model based on exactness, not on "proven past" (8:37:06 PM) the_rat_god: http://www.bestmotivationalposters.com/funnypostergallery/bravery.html (8:37:11 PM) the_rat_god: remove most rules (8:37:15 PM) the_rat_god: let market take care of itself (8:37:17 PM) the_rat_god: lassie faire (8:37:25 PM) the_rat_god: voltaire was ahead of his time (8:37:25 PM) teurastaja: not at all (8:37:34 PM) alucard1211: do away with laws all together (8:37:39 PM) the_rat_god: www.capitalism.org (8:37:45 PM) the_rat_god: www.mises.org (8:37:47 PM) the_rat_god: no (8:37:53 PM) alucard1211: laws are for wimps (8:37:55 PM) the_rat_god: governmetn must provide courts and defense (8:37:57 PM) the_rat_god: of course (8:38:01 PM) the_rat_god: usa is best governmetn ever (8:38:12 PM) teurastaja: google stupid laws (8:38:22 PM) alucard1211: all laws are stupid :) (8:38:40 PM) teurastaja: usa shows many examples (8:39:13 PM) teurastaja: laws should be made like a software (8:39:49 PM) alucard1211: opensouce and can be changed by anyone (8:40:00 PM) alucard1211: :) (8:40:00 PM) teurastaja: who needs laws for horses nowadays (8:40:15 PM) bubulein left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving). (8:40:31 PM) alucard1211: laws should be opensouce (8:40:39 PM) teurastaja: open source gorvernment is a common pool of ideas (8:40:51 PM) the_rat_god: I think www.fairtax.org (8:40:52 PM) the_rat_god: has it (8:41:00 PM) the_rat_god: geoism is interesting but could lead to governmetn abuse (8:41:05 PM) teurastaja: technocracy lets the knowledgeable decide (8:41:07 PM) the_rat_god: tax consuming (8:41:10 PM) the_rat_god: not producing (8:41:12 PM) the_rat_god: production (8:41:15 PM) the_rat_god: I mean the tek is there (8:41:20 PM) the_rat_god: its all the welfare (8:41:25 PM) the_rat_god: if people had to be productive (8:41:28 PM) the_rat_god: under capitalism (8:41:36 PM) the_rat_god: there would be so much good cheap stuff oh yeah!! (8:41:39 PM) the_rat_god: but all corruption (8:41:41 PM) the_rat_god: communism (8:41:43 PM) the_rat_god: socialism (8:41:44 PM) the_rat_god: fascism (8:41:48 PM) alucard1211: lets all go riot (8:41:53 PM) the_rat_god: remember communism is facism all left wing big governmetn bs

(8:26:39 PM) teurastaja: our current government is the conservative party (8:26:46 PM) topgun21: xjr sbin/fix-xorg give command not found error (8:26:48 PM) the_rat_god: capitalism and freedom make avg perosn rich (8:26:53 PM) the_rat_god: much richer than planned economy (8:26:55 PM) the_rat_god: by far (8:26:59 PM) the_rat_god: not even close (8:27:11 PM) the_rat_god: there is no such thing as conservative (8:27:20 PM) the_rat_god: there is capitalism and fascism/socialism/communism (8:27:22 PM) teurastaja: what do you think of northern europe? (8:27:32 PM) the_rat_god: failing (8:27:34 PM) the_rat_god: slowly (8:27:38 PM) the_rat_god: now faster with greece (8:28:03 PM) alucard1211: lets all be communists hehe:-p (8:28:27 PM) teurastaja: conservative party, liberal party, neo-democratic party, etc, etc... (8:28:49 PM) topgun21 left the room (quit: Quit: leaving). (8:28:50 PM) teurastaja: we have place for newer parties (8:29:04 PM) the_rat_god: capitalism would be good for most of europe to adopt (8:29:12 PM) the_rat_god: but they cant make intellecual jump (8:29:13 PM) alucard1211: why (8:29:16 PM) the_rat_god: cant admit they were wrong (8:29:19 PM) the_rat_god: I dont know why (8:29:32 PM) alucard1211: why dont ya know (8:29:54 PM) teurastaja: because you are stuck with that idea (8:29:59 PM) xjd: when is it likely that 9.0 will be relased? (8:30:17 PM) bankai_: xjd: when it's ready (8:30:47 PM) xjd: any reason to wait for it, or should I just install 8.2 and upgrade whenever it comes? (8:31:02 PM) bankai_: depends if you're in a rush or not (8:31:21 PM) the_rat_god: europe could be richer (8:31:27 PM) the_rat_god: but they cant admit they were wrong (8:31:29 PM) the_rat_god: :) (8:31:44 PM) teurastaja: dont tell me your country isnt going bad when our dollar is steadier and yours is droping (8:31:54 PM) alucard1211: xjd: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Releng/9.0TODO (8:32:16 PM) gg7 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 258 seconds). (8:32:17 PM) teurastaja: who cant pay its deficits? (8:32:42 PM) bankai_: 2011-11-13 is the forecast for 9.0 (8:33:03 PM) bankai_: there is an off-topic freebsd channel, you know!!!! (8:33:15 PM) the_rat_god: democrats (8:33:16 PM) the_rat_god: lol (8:33:23 PM) the_rat_god: obama is being too european (8:33:24 PM) the_rat_god: lol (8:33:27 PM) teurastaja: if we keep your philosophy all money goes to china so we should immitate them (8:33:29 PM) the_rat_god: need to cut government spending (8:33:32 PM) the_rat_god: I am republican (8:33:33 PM) xjd: okey.. and it should be painess to upgrade 8.2 to 9.0, right? (8:33:55 PM) bankai_: painless? it's not too difficult (8:34:12 PM) xjd: I have an OpenBSD partition with a single OpenBSD diskslice.. can I read it without problems with FreeBSD? (8:34:13 PM) bankai_: might just take a while if you're compiling from src (8:34:59 PM) teurastaja: spending for what? army? companies? (8:35:11 PM) the_rat_god: less pain if move data (8:35:13 PM) the_rat_god: nuke box (8:35:15 PM) the_rat_god: install 9 (8:35:16 PM) teurastaja: companies should self-sustain (8:35:18 PM) the_rat_god: move data back (8:35:23 PM) the_rat_god: simplicity itself (8:35:24 PM) the_rat_god: :) (8:35:35 PM) bankai_: xjd: OpenBSD and FreeBSD use different versions of UFS, so perhaps - i haven't tried for a long time (8:35:37 PM) alucard1211: a upgrade button would be simple 2 (8:35:37 PM) the_rat_god: governmetn should stop making too many dumb rules (8:35:38 PM) alucard1211: :-p (8:35:39 PM) the_rat_god: :) (8:36:28 PM) alucard1211: but we wouldnt want simple here would we (8:36:30 PM) alucard1211: :-p (8:36:59 PM) teurastaja: governments should clean up old laws and make an constraint-based model based on exactness, not on "proven past" (8:37:06 PM) the_rat_god: http://www.bestmotivationalposters.com/funnypostergallery/bravery.html (8:37:11 PM) the_rat_god: remove most rules (8:37:15 PM) the_rat_god: let market take care of itself (8:37:17 PM) the_rat_god: lassie faire (8:37:25 PM) the_rat_god: voltaire was ahead of his time (8:37:25 PM) teurastaja: not at all (8:37:34 PM) alucard1211: do away with laws all together (8:37:39 PM) the_rat_god: www.capitalism.org (8:37:45 PM) the_rat_god: www.mises.org (8:37:47 PM) the_rat_god: no (8:37:53 PM) alucard1211: laws are for wimps (8:37:55 PM) the_rat_god: governmetn must provide courts and defense (8:37:57 PM) the_rat_god: of course (8:38:01 PM) the_rat_god: usa is best governmetn ever (8:38:12 PM) teurastaja: google stupid laws (8:38:22 PM) alucard1211: all laws are stupid :) (8:38:40 PM) teurastaja: usa shows many examples (8:39:13 PM) teurastaja: laws should be made like a software (8:39:49 PM) alucard1211: opensouce and can be changed by anyone (8:40:00 PM) alucard1211: :) (8:40:00 PM) teurastaja: who needs laws for horses nowadays (8:40:15 PM) bubulein left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving). (8:40:31 PM) alucard1211: laws should be opensouce (8:40:39 PM) teurastaja: open source gorvernment is a common pool of ideas (8:40:51 PM) the_rat_god: I think www.fairtax.org (8:40:52 PM) the_rat_god: has it (8:41:00 PM) the_rat_god: geoism is interesting but could lead to governmetn abuse (8:41:05 PM) teurastaja: technocracy lets the knowledgeable decide (8:41:07 PM) the_rat_god: tax consuming (8:41:10 PM) the_rat_god: not producing (8:41:12 PM) the_rat_god: production (8:41:15 PM) the_rat_god: I mean the tek is there (8:41:20 PM) the_rat_god: its all the welfare (8:41:25 PM) the_rat_god: if people had to be productive (8:41:28 PM) the_rat_god: under capitalism (8:41:36 PM) the_rat_god: there would be so much good cheap stuff oh yeah!! (8:41:39 PM) the_rat_god: but all corruption (8:41:41 PM) the_rat_god: communism (8:41:43 PM) the_rat_god: socialism (8:41:44 PM) the_rat_god: fascism (8:41:48 PM) alucard1211: lets all go riot (8:41:53 PM) the_rat_god: remember communism is facism all left wing big governmetn bs