[03:34] == gavino [47bd073a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.189.7.58] has joined #gobolinux [03:37] end the fed!! [03:37] end public ed! [03:37] lol [03:37] end insurance corps! [03:38] gavino you are the perfect corporate man [03:39] there is a term when fat governmetn pigs give fat handouts to large non competitive corporaations: communism/fascism/socialism [03:40] capitalism would never allow thsi bs [03:40] no way no how [03:40] linux is very capitaist os [03:40] as are bsds [03:40] :) [03:40] occupy the fed!! [03:40] http://www.dilbert.com/fast/1993-08-17/ [03:41] hey is there a way to install gobo from a usb? [03:41] I couldn't get the bugger to boot [03:41] when I used a windows based tool [03:41] I am now on archlinux and can use linux toolz [03:46] gavino this is sooooo opinionated! [03:46] do you even know the term "disaster capitalism"? [03:46] the US warfare is a strategic tool to achieve precisely this [03:46] its a term to hide the failings of communism/socialism/fascism and blame capitalism [03:46] lol [03:46] totally transparent drivel [03:47] corruption is always free of ideology gavino [03:47] no smart person gives it even a huff [03:47] it exists [03:47] if you think capitalism leads to 0 corruption then you are a lying bitch! [03:47] ah yes hench the founding fathers of usa said we want small government and division of powers, and no central bank or king [03:48] as if dick cheney ever cared about the founding fathers [03:48] I think capitalism is better than any other system tried, and that the fed failed in 2008 1998 and 1921 [03:48] as if rumsfeld has never had a conflict of interest holding his shares [03:48] I also note that USA and japan and china, the most capitalist nations, happen to be 1-2-3 bigget economies [03:48] china is a capitalist nation? [03:49] in some respects more so than USA [03:49] you know that they are skewing their currency and dumping it [03:49] well they pegged it to the dollar [03:49] and now politicians want to punish them for ir [03:49] which is kinda weird [03:49] yea [03:49] == Gryfelhase [~gryflhase@46.115.24.52] has joined #gobolinux [03:49] sounds like government making silly rules [03:49] not allowing simple free trade [03:50] all governments try that, even the USA [03:50] and besides [03:50] vote republican [03:50] subsidies exist so how can this be "free" trade [03:50] I will and do [03:50] allow freedom is the short answer [03:50] the republicans and democrats are the same party [03:50] democrats say that a lot [03:50] few republicans do [03:50] democrates ir repunblican... both are marionetts of the same puppetmasters... [03:51] see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSBhI_0at0 video [03:51] are you say a socislist/communist/fascist? [03:51] well, Ron Paul is a bit different [03:51] and it's a reason why he will never win :) [03:51] communism never existed [03:51] it was a dictatorship [03:51] as was fascism and socialism [03:52] Ron Paul is very capitalist [03:52] i love ron [03:52] pfft [03:52] you are a tea party voter [03:52] communism existed in soviet russia [03:52] and in fascist italy [03:52] no, it was not communism [03:52] There's a clever rule... : manipulate people of the goverment, whatever party they are in [03:52] oh yes [03:52] it was [03:52] Who is John Galt? [03:52] no it was not [03:52] oh yes it was [03:53] gavino define communism [03:53] big government [03:53] government at the people [03:53] so communism is big government? [03:53] :) [03:53] so if the USA has a big government, it is communism? [03:53] fascism socialism communism monarchism soviet russia all same [03:53] hehe [03:54] are there no pirates in the usa ? :) [03:54] The only party you can vote at in germany :) [03:54] when you deficit spend you are raising taxes [03:54] gavino, are you for 0 tax? [03:54] I am for low taxes [03:54] very low [03:54] no reaction from gavino... [03:54] define low [03:54] gavino: read Atlas Shrugged [03:54] and very very low spending by government [03:54] and lots of freedom [03:55] you don't even define how low low is!!! [03:55] the things that made usa great [03:55] so? [03:55] you don't define anything [03:55] you are the perfect politican :) [03:55] you are worried about definitions when you might have many difinitions dead wrong [03:55] and that is why you are confused [03:55] give one [03:55] simple [03:56] I am for a free budget without taxes (here in germany for a single say 1000 euro, for a pair 1500, for pair wirth child 2000....and anithing above your free budget 60% taxes that finacnes the healt etc [03:56] (1000 per month) [03:56] what was Milton Friedman's ideal tax proposal gavino in %? [03:56] government should spend 40% of what it does now [03:56] for a starter [03:56] end the fed [03:56] lol [03:56] milton was a cool guy [03:56] so was henry george [03:56] but you don't know any details [03:56] end all insurance corps [03:56] end tobacco corps [03:56] you are like a little kid who knows nothing [03:57] gavino - how high was the tax imposed by Paul Bremer in Iraq? [03:57] no you are a name caller, which is more a little kid [03:57] hong kong had 15% flat tax [03:57] good number! [03:57] and one of great devlopment stories in history [03:57] the 15% was what Paul Bremer also used, it is Milton Friedman's magic number :) [03:57] lets abolish irs and have 15% sales tax on new goods only [03:57] hek lets make it 10% [03:58] and no death tax [03:58] no inheritance tax [03:58] no cap gain tax [03:58] no fed [03:58] basics [03:58] these are like bare minimum [03:58] balanced budget by cutting spending [03:58] reduce rules [03:58] allow free market to arrive at solutions [03:58] Gryfelhase you still have to maintain certain basic things though, roads and so on. I haven't seen anyone run a purely private version for that yet [03:59] remember the calculation problem [03:59] you could easily have private roads [03:59] and cops n firemen [03:59] easy [03:59] I would put the military to work building power plants [03:59] nuclear power plants [03:59] and pay france to share their excellent technology [04:00] end all environmental lawyering [04:00] shevy: with 60% taxes aove your free budget no problem [04:00] end case law [04:00] gavino, does the USA have private roads not paid by taxpayers? [04:00] repalce msot lawyers with software [04:00] the highways? :) [04:00] the highways are tax paid [04:00] and were inefficiently made [04:00] as are all government projects [04:00] fat n inefficient [04:00] ok so what is made private is always perfect [04:00] so people with above 10k+ month would have to pay MUCH more then today [04:01] no limit in healt and age accurance they have now [04:01] ? [04:01] accruance? [04:01] 10k what? [04:01] all pensions gone [04:01] gone [04:01] no paying anyone to sit on ass [04:01] gavino: and the privat ones are no support, bad quality ? [04:02] gavino, but it was their own money they paid into it in the first place so they would have to get their money back [04:02] copetition brings quality [04:02] no [04:02] they dont pay 100% on at all [04:02] they get massive stolen tax money

[03:34] == gavino [47bd073a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.189.7.58] has joined #gobolinux [03:37] end the fed!! [03:37] end public ed! [03:37] lol [03:37] end insurance corps! [03:38] gavino you are the perfect corporate man [03:39] there is a term when fat governmetn pigs give fat handouts to large non competitive corporaations: communism/fascism/socialism [03:40] capitalism would never allow thsi bs [03:40] no way no how [03:40] linux is very capitaist os [03:40] as are bsds [03:40] :) [03:40] occupy the fed!! [03:40] http://www.dilbert.com/fast/1993-08-17/ [03:41] hey is there a way to install gobo from a usb? [03:41] I couldn't get the bugger to boot [03:41] when I used a windows based tool [03:41] I am now on archlinux and can use linux toolz [03:46] gavino this is sooooo opinionated! [03:46] do you even know the term "disaster capitalism"? [03:46] the US warfare is a strategic tool to achieve precisely this [03:46] its a term to hide the failings of communism/socialism/fascism and blame capitalism [03:46] lol [03:46] totally transparent drivel [03:47] corruption is always free of ideology gavino [03:47] no smart person gives it even a huff [03:47] it exists [03:47] if you think capitalism leads to 0 corruption then you are a lying bitch! [03:47] ah yes hench the founding fathers of usa said we want small government and division of powers, and no central bank or king [03:48] as if dick cheney ever cared about the founding fathers [03:48] I think capitalism is better than any other system tried, and that the fed failed in 2008 1998 and 1921 [03:48] as if rumsfeld has never had a conflict of interest holding his shares [03:48] I also note that USA and japan and china, the most capitalist nations, happen to be 1-2-3 bigget economies [03:48] china is a capitalist nation? [03:49] in some respects more so than USA [03:49] you know that they are skewing their currency and dumping it [03:49] well they pegged it to the dollar [03:49] and now politicians want to punish them for ir [03:49] which is kinda weird [03:49] yea [03:49] == Gryfelhase [~gryflhase@46.115.24.52] has joined #gobolinux [03:49] sounds like government making silly rules [03:49] not allowing simple free trade [03:50] all governments try that, even the USA [03:50] and besides [03:50] vote republican [03:50] subsidies exist so how can this be "free" trade [03:50] I will and do [03:50] allow freedom is the short answer [03:50] the republicans and democrats are the same party [03:50] democrats say that a lot [03:50] few republicans do [03:50] democrates ir repunblican... both are marionetts of the same puppetmasters... [03:51] see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSBhI_0at0 video [03:51] are you say a socislist/communist/fascist? [03:51] well, Ron Paul is a bit different [03:51] and it's a reason why he will never win :) [03:51] communism never existed [03:51] it was a dictatorship [03:51] as was fascism and socialism [03:52] Ron Paul is very capitalist [03:52] i love ron [03:52] pfft [03:52] you are a tea party voter [03:52] communism existed in soviet russia [03:52] and in fascist italy [03:52] no, it was not communism [03:52] There's a clever rule... : manipulate people of the goverment, whatever party they are in [03:52] oh yes [03:52] it was [03:52] Who is John Galt? [03:52] no it was not [03:52] oh yes it was [03:53] gavino define communism [03:53] big government [03:53] government at the people [03:53] so communism is big government? [03:53] :) [03:53] so if the USA has a big government, it is communism? [03:53] fascism socialism communism monarchism soviet russia all same [03:53] hehe [03:54] are there no pirates in the usa ? :) [03:54] The only party you can vote at in germany :) [03:54] when you deficit spend you are raising taxes [03:54] gavino, are you for 0 tax? [03:54] I am for low taxes [03:54] very low [03:54] no reaction from gavino... [03:54] define low [03:54] gavino: read Atlas Shrugged [03:54] and very very low spending by government [03:54] and lots of freedom [03:55] you don't even define how low low is!!! [03:55] the things that made usa great [03:55] so? [03:55] you don't define anything [03:55] you are the perfect politican :) [03:55] you are worried about definitions when you might have many difinitions dead wrong [03:55] and that is why you are confused [03:55] give one [03:55] simple [03:56] I am for a free budget without taxes (here in germany for a single say 1000 euro, for a pair 1500, for pair wirth child 2000....and anithing above your free budget 60% taxes that finacnes the healt etc [03:56] (1000 per month) [03:56] what was Milton Friedman's ideal tax proposal gavino in %? [03:56] government should spend 40% of what it does now [03:56] for a starter [03:56] end the fed [03:56] lol [03:56] milton was a cool guy [03:56] so was henry george [03:56] but you don't know any details [03:56] end all insurance corps [03:56] end tobacco corps [03:56] you are like a little kid who knows nothing [03:57] gavino - how high was the tax imposed by Paul Bremer in Iraq? [03:57] no you are a name caller, which is more a little kid [03:57] hong kong had 15% flat tax [03:57] good number! [03:57] and one of great devlopment stories in history [03:57] the 15% was what Paul Bremer also used, it is Milton Friedman's magic number :) [03:57] lets abolish irs and have 15% sales tax on new goods only [03:57] hek lets make it 10% [03:58] and no death tax [03:58] no inheritance tax [03:58] no cap gain tax [03:58] no fed [03:58] basics [03:58] these are like bare minimum [03:58] balanced budget by cutting spending [03:58] reduce rules [03:58] allow free market to arrive at solutions [03:58] Gryfelhase you still have to maintain certain basic things though, roads and so on. I haven't seen anyone run a purely private version for that yet [03:59] remember the calculation problem [03:59] you could easily have private roads [03:59] and cops n firemen [03:59] easy [03:59] I would put the military to work building power plants [03:59] nuclear power plants [03:59] and pay france to share their excellent technology [04:00] end all environmental lawyering [04:00] shevy: with 60% taxes aove your free budget no problem [04:00] end case law [04:00] gavino, does the USA have private roads not paid by taxpayers? [04:00] repalce msot lawyers with software [04:00] the highways? :) [04:00] the highways are tax paid [04:00] and were inefficiently made [04:00] as are all government projects [04:00] fat n inefficient [04:00] ok so what is made private is always perfect [04:00] so people with above 10k+ month would have to pay MUCH more then today [04:01] no limit in healt and age accurance they have now [04:01] ? [04:01] accruance? [04:01] 10k what? [04:01] all pensions gone [04:01] gone [04:01] no paying anyone to sit on ass [04:01] gavino: and the privat ones are no support, bad quality ? [04:02] gavino, but it was their own money they paid into it in the first place so they would have to get their money back [04:02] copetition brings quality [04:02] no [04:02] they dont pay 100% on at all [04:02] they get massive stolen tax money