another reason to hate communist/fascist/socialsits aka democrats 0 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul November 4, 2011 By Summer Ludwig

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As anyone with a blog, YouTube account, MySpace page, or web site knows Ron Paul supporters are everywhere! The internet is filled with them. The frightening thing that I have witnessed is that many liberal voters are giving some credence to Ron Paul’s campaign and message. He somehow comes across as different or better than the run of the mill conservatives filling the Republican ticket. I do not support Ron Paul in ANY and I find his Congressional record and policies to be, at times, even scarier than his counterparts. The only thing that I have found to agree with him on is the fact that he does not support the war in Iraq. After extensive research I have compiled a list of 10 reasons NOT to vote for Ron Paul! 1. Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities. Ron Paul has sponsored legislation that would repeal affirmative action, keep the IRS from investigating private schools who may have used race as a factor in denying entrance, thus losing their tax exempt status, would limit the scope of Brown versus Board of Education, and would deny citizenship for those born in the US if their parents are not citizens. Here are links to these bills: H.R.3863, H.R.5909, H.J.RES.46, and H.J.RES.42. 2. Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights.Ron Paul makes it very clear that one of his aims is to repeal Roe v. Wade. He has also co sponsored 4 separate bills to “To provide that human life shall be deemed to exist from conception.” This, of course, goes against current medical and scientific information as well as our existing laws and precedents. Please see these links: H.R.2597 and H.R.392 3. Ron Paul would be disastrous for the working class. He supports abolishing the Federal minimum wage, has twice introduced legislation to repeal OSHA, or the Occupational Safety and Health Act and would deal devastating blows to Social Security including repealing the act that makes it mandatory for employees of nonprofits, to make “coverage completely optional for both present and future workers”, and would “freeze benefit levels”. He has also twice sponsored legislation seeking to repeal the Davis-Bacon Act and the Copeland Act which among other things provide that contractors for the federal government must provide the prevailing wage and prohibits corporate “kick backs.” Here are the related legislative links: H.R.2030, H.R.4604, H.R.736, and H.R.2720 4. Ron Paul’s tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes.He has repeatedly submitted amendments to the tax code that would get rid of the estate and gift taxes, tax all earners at 10%, disallow income tax credits to individuals who are not corporations, repeal the elderly tax credit, child care credit, earned income credit, and other common credits for working class citizens. Please see this link for more information: H.R.05484 Summary 5. Ron Paul’s policies would cause irreparable damage to our already strained environment. Among other travesties he supports off shore drilling, building more oil refineries, mining on federal lands, no taxes on the production of fuel, and would stop conservation efforts that could be a “Federal obstacle” to building and maintaining refineries. He has also sought to amend the Clean Air Act, repeal the Soil and Water Conservation Act of 1977, and to amend the Federal Water Pollution Control Act to “restrict the jurisdiction of the United States over the discharge of dredged or fill material to discharges into waters”. To see for yourself the possible extent of the damage to the environment that would happen under a Paul administration please follow these links: H.R.2504, H.R.7079, H.R.7245, H.R.2415, H.R.393, H.R.4639, H.R.5293, and H.R.6936 6. A Ron Paul administration would continue to proliferate the negative image of the US among other nations. Ron Paul supports withdrawing the US from the UN, when that has not happened he has fought to at least have the US withdrawn from the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization. He has introduced legislation to keep the US from giving any funds to the UN. He also submitted that the US funds should not be used in any UN peacekeeping mission or any UN program at all. He has sponsored a bill calling for us to “terminate all participation by the United States in the United Nations, and to remove all privileges, exemptions, and immunities of the United Nations.”Ron Paul twice supported stopping the destruction of intercontinental ballistic missile silos in the United States. He also would continue with Bush’s plan of ignoring international laws by maintaining an insistence that the International Criminal Court does not apply to the US, despite President Clinton’s signature on the original treaty. The International Criminal Court is used for, among other things, prosecution of war crimes. Please see the following links: H.R.3891, H.AMDT.191, H.AMDT.190, H.R.3769, H.R.1665, H.CON.RES.23, and H.R.1154 7. Ron Paul discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation and would not provide equal rights and protections to glbt citizens. This is an issue that Paul sort of dances around. He has been praised for stating that the federal government should not regulate who a person marries. This has been construed by some to mean that he is somewhat open to the idea of same sex marriage, he is not. Paul was an original co sponsor of the Marriage Protection Act in the House in 2004. Among other things this discriminatory piece of legislation placed a prohibition on the recognition of a same sex marriage across state borders. He said in 2004 that if he was in the Texas legislature he would not allow judges to come up with “new definitions” of marriage. Paul is a very religious conservative and though he is careful with his words his record shows that he is not a supporter of same sex marriage. In 1980 he introduced a particularly bigoted bill entitled “A bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955 A direct quote from the legislation “Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.” shows that he is unequivocally opposed to lifestyles other than heterosexual. 8. Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns. One of Paul’s loudest gripes is that the second amendment of the constitution is being eroded. In fact, he believes that September 11 would not have happened if that wasn’t true. He advocates for there to be no restrictions on personal ownership of semi-automatic weaponry or large capacity ammunition feeding devices, would repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act (because we all know our schools are just missing more guns), wants guns to be allowed in our National Parks, and repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968. Now, I’m pretty damn certain that when the Constitution was written our founding fathers never intended for people to be walking around the streets with AK47′s and “large capacity ammunition feeding devices.” (That just sounds scary.) Throughout the years our Constitution has been amended and is indeed a living document needing changes to stay relevant in our society. Paul has no problem changing the Constitution when it fits his needs, such as no longer allowing those born in the US to be citizens if their parents are not. On the gun issue though he is no holds barred. I know he’s from Texas but really, common sense tells us that the amendments he is seeking to repeal have their place. In fact, the gun control act was put into place after the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Robert Kennedy. Please view the following links: H.R.2424, H.R.1897, H.R.1096, H.R.407, H.R.1147, and H.R.3892. 9. Ron Paul would butcher our already sad educational system. The fact is that Ron Paul wants to privatize everything and that includes education. Where we run into problems is that it has been shown (think our current health care system) that this doesn’t work so well in practice. Ron Paul has introduced legislation that would keep the Federal Government “from planning, developing, implementing, or administering any national teacher test or method of certification and from withholding funds from States or local educational agencies that fail to adopt a specific method of teacher certification.” In a separate piece of legislation he seeks to “prohibit the payment of Federal Education assistance in States which require the licensing or certification of private schools or private school teachers.” So basically the federal government can’t regulate teaching credentials and if states opt to require them for private schools they get no aid. That sounds like a marvelous idea teachers with no certification teaching in private schools that are allowed to discriminate on the basis of race. He is certainly moving forward with these proposals!Remember his “bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955? Guess what? He basically advocates for segregation in schools once again. It “Forbids any court of the United States from requiring the attendance at a particular school of any student because of race, color, creed, or sex.” Without thinking about this statement it doesn’t sound bad at all. But remember, when desegregating schools that this is done by having children go to different schools, often after a court decision as in Brown Vs. Board of Education. If this were a bill that passed, schools would no longer be compelled to comply and the schools would go back to segregation based on their locations. Ron Paul is really starting to look like a pretty bigoted guy don’t you think? 10. Ron Paul is opposed to the separation of church and state. This reason is probably behind every other thing that I disagree with in regards to Paul’s positions. Ron Paul is among those who believes that there is a war on religion, he stated “Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view.” (( Koyaanisqatsi Blog: Wrong Paul Why I Do Not Want Ron Paul to be My President )) Though he talks a good talk, at times, Ron Paul can’t get away from his far right, conservative views. He would support “alternative views” to evolution taught in public schools (i.e. Intelligent Design.) We’ve already taken a look at his “bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955Besides hating the gays he takes a very religious stance on many other things. He is attempting to force his beliefs on the rest of America, exactly what he would do as president. So there you have it, my 10 reasons not to vote for Ron Paul. Please take the time to thoroughly review the records of the people running for office so you know where they really stand. Ron Paul has good rhetoric and he opposes the war but he’s not a good man in the human rights sense of the phrase. He is pretty much like every other Republican but more insidious. Here is a video that you should watch after reading this article. Really listen to what he says and how he says it. Watch out for the sneaky ones and RESEARCH! ((Orcinus: Ron Paul’s Record in Congress )) http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/ Report to moderator Logged Bindare_Dundat Getbig V Posts: 9046 The fight has just begun. Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 11:58:37 AM » LMAO. ok..... Report to moderator Logged 333386 Getbig V Posts: 76887 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 12:44:47 PM » That's why I am voting for him Report to moderator Logged ANDRESDMN IS THE 95% Freeborn126 Getbig III Gender: Posts: 616 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #3 on: November 07, 2011, 12:39:42 PM » Experts Agree with Ron Paul’s Foreign Policy Reports ABC News: Ron Paul is often chided by his Republican opponents for his extreme views on American foreign policy. His calls for ending all foreign wars and shutting hundreds of military bases across the globe have drawn howls from his GOP rivals, who have labeled the moves irresponsible and naïve. His campaign pledge of cutting all foreign aid and withdrawing U.S. participation in the World Trade Organization and the United Nations has been at odds with even the most conservative members of his own party. Yet as voting day in Iowa and New Hampshire draws near, Paul, the Congressman from Texas, is finding support for his non-interventionist positions from a growing number of foreign policy experts. “He’s attacking our rich lazy friends, why is that not more popular,” said Harvey Sapolsky, emeritus professor of public policy and organization at MIT. He backs Paul’s calls for reducing America’s military budget, arguing that much of it is used to defend wealthy nations’ security. A huge, Cold War-era global presence — with hundreds of overseas military bases — isn’t necessary, now that the Soviet threat is over and the collapse of communism, Sapolsky said. “It’s not in America’s interest,” said Sapolsky, who added that despite the drumbeat in the media over the fear of terrorism, America is the safest it has ever been in its history. Christopher Preble, vice president for defense and foreign policy studies at the Cato Institute, is also another foreign policy expert who agrees that the United States is extraordinarily secure due to its geography and nuclear weapons, and doesn’t need a huge global presence. He also argued that the United States’ military is being used in overseas conflicts with little or no national interest, specifically pointing to the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Preble gave Paul credit for being one of the few outspoken critics of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. “A lot of people won’t say come home,” Sapolsky said. “But Ron Paul does and that’s great.” Report to moderator Logged Live free or die 333386 Getbig V Posts: 76887 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 12:40:29 PM » Check out my thread of RP from 1983. This is EXACTLY why we need RP Report to moderator Logged ANDRESDMN IS THE 95% 240 is Back Getbig V Posts: 60211 Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 12:41:17 PM » ron paul would destory obama and fix america. Romney = Perry = Bush = Obama = Mccain. More of the same. if you don't vote Ron paul, you deserve every second of another Obama administration. Report to moderator Logged loco Getbig V Posts: 7332 Getbig! Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 12:52:29 PM » Quote from: Beach Bum on November 05, 2011, 11:00:54 AM Got this from one of my ultra liberal friends. 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul November 4, 2011 By Summer Ludwig Addicting Info posted an article several months ago regarding Ron Paul and his ties to white supremacy, and we were barraged with pleas and “stories” to win us over. In honor of Ron Paul’s obsessive fans we’re publishing the following article, showing his history of discrimination. As anyone with a blog, YouTube account, MySpace page, or web site knows Ron Paul supporters are everywhere! The internet is filled with them. The frightening thing that I have witnessed is that many liberal voters are giving some credence to Ron Paul’s campaign and message. He somehow comes across as different or better than the run of the mill conservatives filling the Republican ticket. I do not support Ron Paul in ANY and I find his Congressional record and policies to be, at times, even scarier than his counterparts. The only thing that I have found to agree with him on is the fact that he does not support the war in Iraq. After extensive research I have compiled a list of 10 reasons NOT to vote for Ron Paul! 1. Ron Paul does not value equal rights for minorities. Ron Paul has sponsored legislation that would repeal affirmative action, keep the IRS from investigating private schools who may have used race as a factor in denying entrance, thus losing their tax exempt status, would limit the scope of Brown versus Board of Education, and would deny citizenship for those born in the US if their parents are not citizens. Here are links to these bills: H.R.3863, H.R.5909, H.J.RES.46, and H.J.RES.42. 2. Ron Paul would deny women control of their bodies and reproductive rights.Ron Paul makes it very clear that one of his aims is to repeal Roe v. Wade. He has also co sponsored 4 separate bills to “To provide that human life shall be deemed to exist from conception.” This, of course, goes against current medical and scientific information as well as our existing laws and precedents. Please see these links: H.R.2597 and H.R.392 3. Ron Paul would be disastrous for the working class. He supports abolishing the Federal minimum wage, has twice introduced legislation to repeal OSHA, or the Occupational Safety and Health Act and would deal devastating blows to Social Security including repealing the act that makes it mandatory for employees of nonprofits, to make “coverage completely optional for both present and future workers”, and would “freeze benefit levels”. He has also twice sponsored legislation seeking to repeal the Davis-Bacon Act and the Copeland Act which among other things provide that contractors for the federal government must provide the prevailing wage and prohibits corporate “kick backs.” Here are the related legislative links: H.R.2030, H.R.4604, H.R.736, and H.R.2720 4. Ron Paul’s tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes.He has repeatedly submitted amendments to the tax code that would get rid of the estate and gift taxes, tax all earners at 10%, disallow income tax credits to individuals who are not corporations, repeal the elderly tax credit, child care credit, earned income credit, and other common credits for working class citizens. Please see this link for more information: H.R.05484 Summary 5. Ron Paul’s policies would cause irreparable damage to our already strained environment. Among other travesties he supports off shore drilling, building more oil refineries, mining on federal lands, no taxes on the production of fuel, and would stop conservation efforts that could be a “Federal obstacle” to building and maintaining refineries. He has also sought to amend the Clean Air Act, repeal the Soil and Water Conservation Act of 1977, and to amend the Federal Water Pollution Control Act to “restrict the jurisdiction of the United States over the discharge of dredged or fill material to discharges into waters”. To see for yourself the possible extent of the damage to the environment that would happen under a Paul administration please follow these links: H.R.2504, H.R.7079, H.R.7245, H.R.2415, H.R.393, H.R.4639, H.R.5293, and H.R.6936 6. A Ron Paul administration would continue to proliferate the negative image of the US among other nations. Ron Paul supports withdrawing the US from the UN, when that has not happened he has fought to at least have the US withdrawn from the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization. He has introduced legislation to keep the US from giving any funds to the UN. He also submitted that the US funds should not be used in any UN peacekeeping mission or any UN program at all. He has sponsored a bill calling for us to “terminate all participation by the United States in the United Nations, and to remove all privileges, exemptions, and immunities of the United Nations.”Ron Paul twice supported stopping the destruction of intercontinental ballistic missile silos in the United States. He also would continue with Bush’s plan of ignoring international laws by maintaining an insistence that the International Criminal Court does not apply to the US, despite President Clinton’s signature on the original treaty. The International Criminal Court is used for, among other things, prosecution of war crimes. Please see the following links: H.R.3891, H.AMDT.191, H.AMDT.190, H.R.3769, H.R.1665, H.CON.RES.23, and H.R.1154 7. Ron Paul discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation and would not provide equal rights and protections to glbt citizens. This is an issue that Paul sort of dances around. He has been praised for stating that the federal government should not regulate who a person marries. This has been construed by some to mean that he is somewhat open to the idea of same sex marriage, he is not. Paul was an original co sponsor of the Marriage Protection Act in the House in 2004. Among other things this discriminatory piece of legislation placed a prohibition on the recognition of a same sex marriage across state borders. He said in 2004 that if he was in the Texas legislature he would not allow judges to come up with “new definitions” of marriage. Paul is a very religious conservative and though he is careful with his words his record shows that he is not a supporter of same sex marriage. In 1980 he introduced a particularly bigoted bill entitled “A bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955 A direct quote from the legislation “Prohibits the expenditure of Federal funds to any organization which presents male or female homosexuality as an acceptable alternative life style or which suggest that it can be an acceptable life style.” shows that he is unequivocally opposed to lifestyles other than heterosexual. 8. Ron Paul has an unnatural obsession with guns. One of Paul’s loudest gripes is that the second amendment of the constitution is being eroded. In fact, he believes that September 11 would not have happened if that wasn’t true. He advocates for there to be no restrictions on personal ownership of semi-automatic weaponry or large capacity ammunition feeding devices, would repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act (because we all know our schools are just missing more guns), wants guns to be allowed in our National Parks, and repeal the Gun Control Act of 1968. Now, I’m pretty damn certain that when the Constitution was written our founding fathers never intended for people to be walking around the streets with AK47′s and “large capacity ammunition feeding devices.” (That just sounds scary.) Throughout the years our Constitution has been amended and is indeed a living document needing changes to stay relevant in our society. Paul has no problem changing the Constitution when it fits his needs, such as no longer allowing those born in the US to be citizens if their parents are not. On the gun issue though he is no holds barred. I know he’s from Texas but really, common sense tells us that the amendments he is seeking to repeal have their place. In fact, the gun control act was put into place after the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Robert Kennedy. Please view the following links: H.R.2424, H.R.1897, H.R.1096, H.R.407, H.R.1147, and H.R.3892. 9. Ron Paul would butcher our already sad educational system. The fact is that Ron Paul wants to privatize everything and that includes education. Where we run into problems is that it has been shown (think our current health care system) that this doesn’t work so well in practice. Ron Paul has introduced legislation that would keep the Federal Government “from planning, developing, implementing, or administering any national teacher test or method of certification and from withholding funds from States or local educational agencies that fail to adopt a specific method of teacher certification.” In a separate piece of legislation he seeks to “prohibit the payment of Federal Education assistance in States which require the licensing or certification of private schools or private school teachers.” So basically the federal government can’t regulate teaching credentials and if states opt to require them for private schools they get no aid. That sounds like a marvelous idea teachers with no certification teaching in private schools that are allowed to discriminate on the basis of race. He is certainly moving forward with these proposals!Remember his “bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955? Guess what? He basically advocates for segregation in schools once again. It “Forbids any court of the United States from requiring the attendance at a particular school of any student because of race, color, creed, or sex.” Without thinking about this statement it doesn’t sound bad at all. But remember, when desegregating schools that this is done by having children go to different schools, often after a court decision as in Brown Vs. Board of Education. If this were a bill that passed, schools would no longer be compelled to comply and the schools would go back to segregation based on their locations. Ron Paul is really starting to look like a pretty bigoted guy don’t you think? 10. Ron Paul is opposed to the separation of church and state. This reason is probably behind every other thing that I disagree with in regards to Paul’s positions. Ron Paul is among those who believes that there is a war on religion, he stated “Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view.” (( Koyaanisqatsi Blog: Wrong Paul Why I Do Not Want Ron Paul to be My President )) Though he talks a good talk, at times, Ron Paul can’t get away from his far right, conservative views. He would support “alternative views” to evolution taught in public schools (i.e. Intelligent Design.) We’ve already taken a look at his “bill to strengthen the American family and promote the virtues of family life.” or H.R.7955Besides hating the gays he takes a very religious stance on many other things. He is attempting to force his beliefs on the rest of America, exactly what he would do as president. So there you have it, my 10 reasons not to vote for Ron Paul. Please take the time to thoroughly review the records of the people running for office so you know where they really stand. Ron Paul has good rhetoric and he opposes the war but he’s not a good man in the human rights sense of the phrase. He is pretty much like every other Republican but more insidious. Here is a video that you should watch after reading this article. Really listen to what he says and how he says it. Watch out for the sneaky ones and RESEARCH! ((Orcinus: Ron Paul’s Record in Congress )) http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11/04/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-paul/ What are these, 10 reasons why Conservative, Christian Republicans must vote for Ron Paul? Report to moderator Logged 333386 Getbig V Posts: 76887 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #7 on: November 07, 2011, 12:55:17 PM » That is what I thought. Most are those are the reasons I have decided to vote for him in the primary. Other than Bachmann, and to a lesser degree Newt - the rest are jokers. 004-0610085829-ron_paul_reagan_2-(Small).jpg (23.65 KB, 436x345 - viewed 113 times.) ron_paul_reagan_3.jpg (85.08 KB, 800x657 - viewed 112 times.) ron_paul_reagan_1.jpg (55.46 KB, 762x602 - viewed 111 times.) Report to moderator Logged ANDRESDMN IS THE 95% Freeborn126 Getbig III Gender: Posts: 616 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #8 on: November 07, 2011, 12:59:21 PM » Quote from: 240 is Back on November 07, 2011, 12:41:17 PM ron paul would destory obama and fix america. Romney = Perry = Bush = Obama = Mccain. More of the same. if you don't vote Ron paul, you deserve every second of another Obama administration. Amazing some people still just don't get this logic. People that don't even consider voting for Ron Paul because of his foreign policy are simply uninformed. Intelligent people capable of critical thinking (not brainwashed by MSM) are generally Ron Paul supporters. Guy that wrote this article is just another useful idiot for the establishment. Report to moderator Logged Live free or die Beach Bum Moderator Getbig V Gender: Posts: 33916 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #9 on: November 07, 2011, 01:03:06 PM » Quote from: loco on November 07, 2011, 12:52:29 PM What are these, 10 reasons why Conservative, Christian Republicans must vote for Ron Paul? lol Report to moderator Logged Beach Bum Moderator Getbig V Gender: Posts: 33916 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #10 on: December 29, 2011, 04:11:35 PM » From the same liberal friend, with the following message: "Don't waste your vote on this nutter..." Founder Of Stormfront Openly Endorses Ron Paul, Says Paul Shares Their Views (VIDEO) December 28, 2011 By Stephen D. Foster Jr. Ron Paul is surging in the polls and that means he’s going to be hit with a freight train full of baggage from the past and a whole lot of new stuff from the present. But this is something that Ron Paul didn’t need right now given his past with racist newsletters and the current endorsement from the Ku Klux Klan. On Tuesday, during an appearance on The Young Turks on Current TV, Don Black, the founder of the white supremacist group known as Stormfront, endorsed Ron Paul and claimed that their views coincide with Paul’s. Black tried to exonerate Paul of the racism charges that have plagued his political career but he fell short of being convincing. “He’s clearly not a white nationalist, he does not have the same worldview we do. But we agree with his stand on the issues, which we believe are heartfelt, coincide with ours. I might prefer that he understand the racial issues that we deal with a little more than he does. We believe that white people in this country and all European countries, Australia, Canada are facing a form of genocide through assimilation.” Here’s the video: The problem with Black’s claim is that Ron Paul once defended his racist newsletters and former aides have regaled the media with stories of Paul’s homophobia, racism, and anti-Semitism. Paul reportedly once refused to use a gay man’s bathroom and is against the existence of Israel. And no matter how hard Ron Paul tried to run from those racist newsletters, his name is still on them and being endorsed by two white supremacist groups isn’t helping Paul’s image one bit. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/28/founder-of-stormfront-openly-endorses-ron-paul-says-paul-shares-their-views-video/ Report to moderator Logged 333386 Getbig V Posts: 76887 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #11 on: December 29, 2011, 04:14:59 PM » See Beach - this is why your liberal friends are not smart and are a bunch of fools. The CPUSA openly campaigned for Obama in 2008 and is supporting him again. Are you liberal friends as concerned that the Communist Party USA is supporting Obama? OF COURSE NOT! ! ! But they will hold RP to a different standard. That is why liberal obamabots are dumber than dirt. Report to moderator Logged ANDRESDMN IS THE 95% Bindare_Dundat Getbig V Posts: 9046 The fight has just begun. Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #12 on: December 29, 2011, 04:25:44 PM » Lol This is so stupid I can't stop laughing. Quote from: Beach Bum on December 29, 2011, 04:11:35 PM From the same liberal friend, with the following message: "Don't waste your vote on this nutter..." Founder Of Stormfront Openly Endorses Ron Paul, Says Paul Shares Their Views (VIDEO) December 28, 2011 By Stephen D. Foster Jr. Ron Paul is surging in the polls and that means he’s going to be hit with a freight train full of baggage from the past and a whole lot of new stuff from the present. But this is something that Ron Paul didn’t need right now given his past with racist newsletters and the current endorsement from the Ku Klux Klan. On Tuesday, during an appearance on The Young Turks on Current TV, Don Black, the founder of the white supremacist group known as Stormfront, endorsed Ron Paul and claimed that their views coincide with Paul’s. Black tried to exonerate Paul of the racism charges that have plagued his political career but he fell short of being convincing. “He’s clearly not a white nationalist, he does not have the same worldview we do. But we agree with his stand on the issues, which we believe are heartfelt, coincide with ours. I might prefer that he understand the racial issues that we deal with a little more than he does. We believe that white people in this country and all European countries, Australia, Canada are facing a form of genocide through assimilation.” Here’s the video: The problem with Black’s claim is that Ron Paul once defended his racist newsletters and former aides have regaled the media with stories of Paul’s homophobia, racism, and anti-Semitism. Paul reportedly once refused to use a gay man’s bathroom and is against the existence of Israel. And no matter how hard Ron Paul tried to run from those racist newsletters, his name is still on them and being endorsed by two white supremacist groups isn’t helping Paul’s image one bit. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/28/founder-of-stormfront-openly-endorses-ron-paul-says-paul-shares-their-views-video/ Report to moderator Logged Beach Bum Moderator Getbig V Gender: Posts: 33916 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #13 on: December 29, 2011, 04:37:50 PM » Quote from: 333386 on December 29, 2011, 04:14:59 PM See Beach - this is why your liberal friends are not smart and are a bunch of fools. The CPUSA openly campaigned for Obama in 2008 and is supporting him again. Are you liberal friends as concerned that the Communist Party USA is supporting Obama? OF COURSE NOT! ! ! But they will hold RP to a different standard. That is why liberal obamabots are dumber than dirt. The guy who sent this to me isn't stupid at all. He's about as far to the left as you can get, but not stupid. Report to moderator Logged 333386 Getbig V Posts: 76887 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #14 on: December 29, 2011, 05:14:42 PM » so he does not care about the. Communist party supporting Obama? Report to moderator Logged ANDRESDMN IS THE 95% Beach Bum Moderator Getbig V Gender: Posts: 33916 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 05:16:19 PM » Quote from: 333386 on December 29, 2011, 05:14:42 PM so he does not care about the. Communist party supporting Obama? I doubt it. lol. Party loyalists turn a blind eye to a lot of stuff. Just look at how Newt skyrocketed up the polls. Report to moderator Logged P.I.P Getbig IV Posts: 2425 Paulbot Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #16 on: December 29, 2011, 06:00:29 PM » Dumb Report to moderator Logged P.I.P Getbig IV Posts: 2425 Paulbot Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #17 on: December 29, 2011, 06:01:24 PM » Quote from: 333386 on November 05, 2011, 12:44:47 PM That's why I am voting for him These are also all qualities I am looking for in a Presidential Candidate. Report to moderator Logged P.I.P Getbig IV Posts: 2425 Paulbot Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #18 on: December 29, 2011, 06:03:26 PM » Quote from: 333386 on December 29, 2011, 04:14:59 PM See Beach - this is why your liberal friends are not smart and are a bunch of fools. Fixed Report to moderator Logged Bindare_Dundat Getbig V Posts: 9046 The fight has just begun. Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 06:17:06 PM » They sure are going crazy attacking a nobody candidate. Report to moderator Logged 333386 Getbig V Posts: 76887 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 06:31:22 PM » There is a reason politico web traffic is down dramatically. Report to moderator Logged ANDRESDMN IS THE 95% 240 is Back Getbig V Posts: 60211 Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 06:36:30 PM » Quote from: 333386 on December 29, 2011, 06:31:22 PM There is a reason politico web traffic is down dramatically. theyve been in the tank for mitt for some time. DU talks about it all the time. their home pages are so loving to him. Report to moderator Logged 333386 Getbig V Posts: 76887 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 06:37:47 PM » Quote from: 240 is Back on December 29, 2011, 06:36:30 PM theyve been in the tank for mitt for some time. DU talks about it all the time. their home pages are so loving to him. Politico suffered a huge blow with that Ezra Klein JournoList scandal. Report to moderator Logged ANDRESDMN IS THE 95% howardroark Getbig IV Gender: Posts: 1181 Resident Objectivist Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #23 on: December 29, 2011, 06:42:06 PM » If you investigate this list, you'll find that actually 75% of it is bullshit. Does Ron Paul support certain measures such as repealing affirmative action? Yes. Is that racist or unfair to minorities? No. It is the only solution which treats individuals as individuals, not as groups or collectives like "men" and "women" or "blacks" and "whites" or "straights" and "gays." Report to moderator Logged Beach Bum Moderator Getbig V Gender: Posts: 33916 Re: 10 Reasons Not To Vote For Ron Paul « Reply #24 on: December 29, 2011, 08:39:57 PM » Quote from: howardroark on December 29, 2011, 06:42:06 PM If you investigate this list, you'll find that actually 75% of it is bullshit. Does Ron Paul support certain measures such as repealing affirmative action? Yes. Is that racist or unfair to minorities? No. It is the only solution which treats individuals as individuals, not as groups or collectives like "men" and "women" or "blacks" and "whites" or "straights" and "gays." No idea whether any of it is true, but the point was how liberals view Ron Paul. Report to moderator Logged Pages: [1] 2 Go Up Print « previous next » Jump to: Theme created by Egad Community. Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines